Reel Fly 18

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About Reel Fly 18

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  • About Me:
    Dyed in the wool surf/bay rat. A yocal of south shore bays and beaches since 78'.
  • Interests (Hobbies, favorite activities, etc.):
    Rod building since 81'. Tie my own bucktails. Tie my own Flies. Absolutely love my Maritime Skiff!
  • What I do for a living:
    F/T Machinist LIRR
    Freelance writer
    P/T LT/Fly charter Capt.
  1. No crap! I caught a freaking big ass eel on Zara Spook (surface darter) one night fishing the south end of the outflow basin.
  2. My hat is off to you. I never came close to fish anything like that. Besides the Christmas fish the others caught in the winter hold over season? Which I consider Christmas to St. Patricks day. It was my belief that spawning sized fish followed their urges and wouldn't hold over unless trapped by a brutal cold snap. Apparently I was wrong and doing something wrong. Kudos to you.
  3. Most everything I caught at the plant I'd classify as schoolies most between 18-22". Some smaller some bigger but that was the lion's share. Biggest "winter" fish I had there was 31". I seen first hand Doc Muller get a one eyed 34" fish on a pencil popper but that was mid April and may have been a migratory fish. I've caught thousands of fish there over two decades, even through the moretoriuum and I can count on one hand how many holdover fish were +28". I've heard second hand of bigger fish being caught and directly from JJ Combs, who fished bait, but never actually seen it. We fished different tides and methods. On good years I'd loose count around 60 or 70 fish and keep going. I have a pretty good sampling of what winters there. Barbless 3/4oz Hopkins bucktails and a 4inch white twister tail were the hot ticket. Various swimming plugs work well but trebles slow everything down. I didn't have near the luck at the T-bar. The attraction was the shorter walk. I remember walking past the restaurant windows through snow in my waders in view of people eating. Their dismay was readily visible and oddly rewarding. Also I know that McDonald's well I'd stop there for a Big Breakfast, Egg McMuffin and coffee after a long cold night and a fair hike.
  4. Thanks for the information. Over the years the results varied widely. It would depend on the speed of the onset of winter, the orientation of the bars and how hard they ran the plant. Over the years feast or famine is pretty much the norm there. That's part of the reason why I asked. The likelihood of being ticked or towed is the other part. I can take a slow night of fishing being ticketed or towed for small fish, not so much.
  5. Agreed, I've a whole bunch of things that I shouldn't have done in fishing and in life. I'm glad you're ok now.
  6. That's a dangerous swim! Even if the jetty was a sidewalk (which it's not). The best tides (historically) will carry you out quickly to the NW in a current that Michael Phelps couldn't get back to shore before hypothermia sets in. In lieu of my casual posts this is not a place to take casually. You need to be seasoned and smart and even at that it's dicey. Then there's the legal BS on top of the that. Which frankly pales in comparison to dying is to catch 20" stripers. You have to be real cautious. I've seen too many people in over their heads, literally. Consider yourself lucky to be alive. The two guys I mentioned earlier weren't the only two the outflow has taken. I was almost one myself. In broad daylight when I least expected.
  7. Kudos for braving federal prosecution to get on it. Unless you are an employee of course. I personally haven't snuck on to the property since '03. Wasn't worth the consequences.
  8. That's how I remember it. Ive heard of two people slipping off it and taken away by the current at the same time. One tried to reach out to first swept off and was pulled in as the sand washed out from under his feet. One died and the other was almost dead when picked up by a lobster boat with a ridiculously low body temp. I've fished that powerplant every winter from 1983 until 2004 when I got my boat. Collectively over 200 times and almost always at night. I'm well aware of the inherent dangers. More than the changes of tide and topography, it's the changes of access and enforcement that are hard to navigate. In 1983 I would walk through the plant like I owned it and fish from the tip of LILCOs jetty or even in the basin inside the plant from atop any of the individual outfloes. Access gradually tightened over the years but you just got kicked out. It was after 9-11 we became criminals if caught on plant property. Access to Crabmeadow Beach has always been temperamental but increasingly difficult. Hence my post here. I have caught thousands of bass there and have a few good stories about the place. Btw anybody the fishes precarious places with high current and shifting bars without first scouting it in the day at the end of the ebb is an idiot.
  9. There's a lot of good stuff here, so what I'm adding here may have been covered already. These are possibly the the most important things I learned about jetty safety over the years and wanted to share them. When a fish is too big to swing, try to walk it back to the beach instead of going down the rocks to get it. Especially if the ocean's crappy. When you're left with no choice but to go down to get a fish, go down feet first with your ass on the rocks. This way you have a lower center of gravity and you are less likely to get knocked down or washed away by a wave. Going down on your ass also keeps your cleats in full contact with the the rocks making it less likely to slip. If you do slip, you're already on the ground, you can see where you are going and have your feet out in front of you to stop you. Much safer this way. And don't kid yourself you can still slip with cleats. Conversely when you're ass out to the ocean and facing the rocks as you go down you have a higher center of gravity and you can't see the wave that's coming over your back. Never turn your back on the ocean. At least when you go down feet first/ass to the rocks you're more likely to see a wave coming and if you do you can easily flip over and scurry back up the rocks. If possible have someone hold your rod as you go down to free up both hands. Much safer with both hands free. Ohhh and I don't worry about tearing my slicks or waders. They're tougher than you think and I'd rather wear them out than wear them swimming. Next, when fishing the end of a jetty, check behind you from time to time. The end of the jetty isn't always the most dangerous part. Often it's the middle, particularly when there's a big quartering heave. Water gets held up in the pocket and the raised water level propagates dangerous wash overs though the middle of the jetty. I learned this the hard way. If you're not aware of the conditions behind you, you can get stuck on the end until the tide drops. A real crappy situation if the tides still coming in.
  10. Thanks for the update. NY the land of NO keeps getting worse. Stay well
  11. I haven't fished the plant in over a decade. Last time I fished there I would park at the end of the road in front of Crabmeadow Beach and make the hike along the beach to the power plant. Some years seemed to be better than others because of how quickly cold weather came on and how the bars were shaped. Is fishing there still doable? Thanks
  12. Read what I wrote carefully. The hook in the 34184 spot is 90 degree hook which is why I thought it was a 91715. It could be a eagle claw 635 too but looks to beefy. You simply didn't understand what I wrote. The message and results are the same. No big deal.
  13. Yeah the one marked 3407 I believe should be aligned with the 34184 label. The hook in that spot looks like another 91715.
  14. Making your own forms out of stainless wire. Close the loop by doubling the loop back into jig head. It will be easier in the long run to slightly modify the mold than manually twist close every wire form. Just make sure the there's a small right angle bent on the end of your doubled back wire to keep it from pulling out
  15. What he said another thing is use straighter hairs and don't put a ton on. When you want a big bushy slow sinking bucktail, you do the opposite. You wrap a lot of the nappiest bucktail hairs you can find tightly upto the collar. Binding a lot of hair tightly will still flare without any collar. For straighter bucktails just use less hair with reasonable pressure staying away from the collar. They tend to collapse a bit with use. Some of my best results with bucktails were with beat up ugly ones that Bluefish removed 2/3s of the hair on. Sparse bucktails are a wonderful thing.