BST Users
  • Content count

  • Joined

  • Last visited

About Vieteiro

  • Rank
    Senior Member
  1. Good point Peter, there is a few ways to fix that tube fly to slide up the line after a hook up. Skirts rigs for tuna to avoid a wahoo to do the same thing, they use a stopper knot that also comercial fisherman had been doing in the Cantabrian sea for similar rigs. We use the same concept, with a 20lb test flouro, few inches from the tube front tie a stopper knot, a plastic bead or a small silicone tube behind the stopper knot before thread the tube fly and tie the hook shank that match the length of the actual tube fly. Same rig can be done with few inches of wire. Best Viete
  2. Gut -hooked with tube flies, not even once in my personal experience with this tubes patterns. I linked the problem more to the slack line, hook shank length and tube size or a very passive retrieve and not much on the tube factor. Love to tie saltwater patterns on tube flies, no vise need it, with a cheap plastic lollipop burned in both ends and applying same tying techniques, and good sense of material proportions. I’m good to go with any tool, thread with most of the receipt you already know. This is my latest. Hook shank is to tie a dragon tail as a articulated body once fly is complete, I can also change colors or tail profile over the dragon tails. This can be also done on regular hook shanks fly patterns. best Viete
  3. Here few on the ABCD rod tip path and one from Mikes clip that it looks more in to the AB casting like the previous single hand rod tip path. Im sure either technique works, I was immersed in the AB and I was doing fine, nothing wrong from my point of view.That’s all guys. Lest go over the pix and see what can we get from it by looking at the casters hands transitions during the casting stroke.
  4. Going back to the subject about taking pictures of our cast to fix casting issues hidden even when played in slow motion. Don’t know if I can put all the pictures in one post, I was randomly collecting them in the clips posted here at ff SOL I was looking for the ABCD casting stroke because it really change my personal best distance cast up front either beach or jetty once I start to get the right balance over my both hands and rod tip path with this technique with less effort or work in to the exercise and more in to the technique. Seems the straight rod tip path is a key element for a nice sharp V shape or more tapered aerodynamic loop. Looking around few years back I found this clip about a straight rod tip path with single fly rods. After this clip I’m not sure about this ABCD cast technique to form a V shape loop even I won’t change it. Let me guys post the clip and would see what you guys think over the next following pictures I have from other casters and their techniques.
  5. Hi apache67 If you have the time and you near 08753 it should be a good opportunity to stop by Hope it helps. Welcome ! Thank you for your service.
  6. Few more pictures with some info from the locals overseas, it was a fish over 5 kilos, the news said they got the fish, but most likely it was other fish according to my sources. Lurking around, I found reports from last year in Benidorm one more attack to a kid and also back in 2006 a little girl was badly wounded in the right arm, with injuries over the hand , wrist and forearm. Here it’s the actual women’s feet picture, impressive jaw size mark.
  7. Never read anything like it about blues. How is that possible? Anyone knows anything like it? Not sure about the link rules here, so ill drop the pix. Best Viete
  8. Both casters are doing really good. Not intention here on any criticism guys, my apologies if It sounds like it to you both first and SOLer members second, English is not my first language so I’m still struggling passing or describing concepts on paper. I finally found the clip that I believe crunch also share few years ago here. I personally consider this casting technique my foundation as a starter point, depending on line head length and rod, the grip vary, but ‘tis is the closest example to what I tried to describe on my previous post about the ABCD rod tip path during the forward casting stroke over standard to short head fly lines, by moving top and bottom hand in opposite directions but in perfect harmony to sharp that loop end shape we all look for at the end of each casting stroke. I picture this casting style before I first watched when I paint my garage ceiling with a 10’ pool roller. Crazy how our brain catch a familiar sensation and immediately you can connected in where is that coming from. If the A to B is the foundation that start the system and not finished, we better get it right at first, my problem with this A to B move step was relatively “easy” to me, I believe those fly casters with a clear casting principles and good SH casting skills that can do the transition to learn and develop the mechanics over the TH rod the A to B stroke is sometimes overlook. To me, I didn’t bother to complete the full circle once in just few hrs I was able to feel the magic, soon enough, in my first hrs of practice time I was able to properly connect A-B very efficient to my point of view. Today I can tell I was simply wrong, knowing how to apply the principles and because a 14’ TH fly rod is such a efficient casting tool that I didn’t realize how far I was from the reality, only because once I achieve the PB distance cast with a TH fly rod so “easy” compared to the number of seasons it took me with a SH fly rod, it cause me a poor conclusion that I took for granted, I was so excited, I suffered a temporary blindness, I believe from the tremendous potential hidden behind this tool. I just live with the same A-B casting stroke until the conditions put me back to square one, that was back in 2003, I know the casting Gods will put me back to that square anytime they please probably on my next outing. Glad you found helpful the previous post Mike. Just trying to move all this in the right direction the best to my knowledge from my own experience in the water, that of course it doesn’t have to work the same to everyone and that’s also what makes this sport a never ends learning curve, just fascinating. Best Viete
  9. Thank you RG and Dan, Im a true believer of monitoring casting on video clips. I can see myself just few seasons ago. I would suggest what instructors and experience casters with others told me to do when I start TH casting. Agree that nothing changed from SH to TH fly rod casting. Follow the same principles is the easy part, the problem is how to educate our both hands during the casting stroke to follow those principals. Both casters on the video follow a straight rod tip path enough to cast long and catch fish anywhere, I’m sure both know the loop size and shape on the actual videos show things can be improve. If we understand a straight rod tip path is the closest way to get a efficient tight, powerful and sharp loop, we need now to picture those steps on paper for a better reference as ABCD critical dots that it must be connected during the casting stroke to get the desired efficient loop size. Looking at the video link we can see clearly the different casting arcs once we connected to a fixed line, visually is a great reference to see how the top and is traveling in a straight line connecting those A B C D points with the imaginary rod tip as a pvc pipe inside a fixed rope. RG and Dan are showing also a nice casting stroke but they are not fully connecting the ABCD but only A to B, over my PC screen, thins are more clear, according to the final rod tip final blank shape and loop size in the videos. Both will cast lot of line because a TH fly rod is a lever multiplier tool plus the longer 13’ rod also helps to hide how close that fly and leader pass over the casters shoulder side, and we all are familiar with that sensations that indicates things are off somewhere. The ABCD CASTING ARC A- Key position, is the start of the forward cast, from A to B- is no rotation keep the rod pinned back during the progressive acceleration to B focus only on loading the rod blank to the bottom handle on a straight line rod tip path. The end of B is the beginning of the rotation to C, from C to D on my arms length is a 50/50 work from both hands on standard to short head lines, the casting acceleration from C to D is at the maximum before firing a tight loop to reach the target at D where again, the bottom and top hand stops the entire system at once to fire. To me, as few here mentioned with TH fly rods the bottom hand can not be out of the system, focus on the baby steps learning is what helps me to educate my both hands to work together, to me, the only way to master and efficiently connect this points along with the both hands over the casting strokes was a game changer, the roll cast practice was my cure to be able to make things better. In today’s practice I reduce the long distance challenge wile practice to a 10%. When over head casting TH fly rods adding the sleep line to load deeply the rod blank during the both forward and back cast drift it really open things up to another level, and to me that’s why this TH fly rods are so addictive once both hands can follow the casting principles from our core and feelings, and not much over what the brain can register through the ayes. Hope it helps. Best Viete.
  10. My grass leader are about 6’ long tie with 40lb test line. A regular Swivel will do it. Agree on the knots along the grass leader don’t help either, but If it twist you should check you 180 principal, alignment on both strokes. This is very important, if you off even every other cast on that principal it cause the rod tip to travel in a elliptical form at the end of each stroke. Have someone to video tape few seconds with your IPhone on slowmow, you will see it if the angle and light on the recording is right. In my stroke a 9 of 10 times the dominant hand is causing the failure on the 180 because of the memory muscles in it. Don’t cast any running line, baby steps, focus on the anchor placement consistency and bottom hand stroke control over the fly or yarn the entire exercise. Understand Mike point of view but disagree deeply, any practice will help, anywhere anytime as longer we commit to the principals, a grass leader will help you to get you close to the foundation of the timing and line control for a consistent anchor placement, to me, actually better than in the water. The water born anchor cast really are very forgiving with this grass leader, again don’t cast any running line, just a foot of running line out rod tip and cast. I saw a guy in my FF club casting over 80’ with a grass leader + 4’ of 30lb straight mono to a hookless 3” hollow pattern from a perry poke to a single spey cast on a 11’ #7 Switch rod and a 430 g Skagit short. Best Viete
  11. Yes, I google this dropper poppers rig, lot info in fresh water..., nothing in the surf. I remember we talk in the pass here, also as a strike indicators with the Bob’s Banger heads in the surf. Im in to the Banger system with no hook or fly in the back, just tie a stopper knot to hold the Banger to slide up or down the leader and loop to loop about 3’ behind as a trailer fly. Short heads works best for me night and day, totally worth it.
  12. All of the above specially the post about the glasses and the tape, TH is a lever multiplier evil tool in fresh hands users. Great looking set up Tom. The clean detail on the trim ring transition to the top handle is top! Great piece of work. Video tape your casting from different angles even few seconds on the more demanding parts of the casting strokes really helps me, IPhone slow motion on a tripod set up was my best tool to spot issues. The 180 principal or tracking is crucial in both casting strokes take a close detail on this. I had the chance to take a class with Andrew he give us few tips, he likes to find the grip rod balance point of the entire system first. Once we determine where the top hand balance point is, I know I establish a good foundation to start the practice game. If the exercise is done correctly no burning sensations should appear at any time, stop if so, look at the problem or video and fix the issue. On the cast, my biggest and most common issues was coming from the top hand, and looks to many others, the dominant hand will screw everything up, and it looks for the eternity will keep doin it to me. I resolve most of the issues when I started casting TH by just beginning the practice with the “Top hand control ” problem printed in my core, I work many of the corrections out there by not casting any running line and dropping the top hand close to the reel seat, and forcing my bottom hand to be more active on the short testing casting exercise. Don’t cast any line, just focus on the bottom hand work and relax more the top hand close to reel seat. At early stages in the process, I like to start casting, and as far as posible can, WRONG...stay Short - is best, for the first 10 to 20 minutes, with just 50% of the SH inside the rod tip during the first practice session, that 50% is not going to load the rod properly but it gives me enough line control sensations to start building up in the right path the same memory muscle I’m going to need later in real time with my bottom hand. Line control - together with the bottom hand work ONLY is the goal here for those 10 to 20 minutes. It was a huge step for me knowing or predict what the line and fly is going to do every time I want at will before I start to move the rod tip with 70% of the power on my bottom hand to 30% top hand in this stage. Obviously this can vary from one caster to other. Just find your sweet spot. I would like to stop again here, we want results fast and followed by even longer targets ASAP. Don’t do it until you control the line from the feeling of the blank load in both casting strokes. Watch Simon G , stroke path A-B-C from 6:20 at the video link below. Hope it helps. Best Viete
  13. Old technique here. We are doing this perfection loop to loop on heavy leaders up to 3’ long in 80 lb as a S-tippet section wih out sacrifice long casting, just few seasons ago I run out of wire for gators, this loop to loop works on my poppers, Im also happy with a 0 ring or even a 50lb swivel will work on uneven or unbalanced “low to high”line diameter transitions that will effect a desire turn overs. The fly profile and weight will require more time and attention for better adjustments to balance the optimum performance on this system, a simple try and error is usually all is need to make it work. The Loops, 0 ring and swivel will cause Snag a lot of sea weed, grass ...if present. Pictures are from YouTube clip, also google Massimo Magliocco for more. Hope it helps. Good luck. Viete
  14. Sorry guys, not trying to change the post subject here. JettyLings Interesting how you guys are open the view in the west coast. I was looking in to this few years ago, and I step in to a podcast with Nathan Cook (see below) about rigging flies to fly fish the surf. Today’s multi fly rig evolution looks it goes in a different direction to face the surf conditions, for the last 3 seasons I saw guys in the east doing more roll cast/spey with switch fly rods with two flies rigs and less but still sexy overhead TH long cast. Is like a freshwater competition nymphing concept is drifting slowly to the saltwater. Competition nymphing in modern times cover many tactics and setups, but they all are sharing a basic link on the efficiency repetition of the short cast with tight control over the flies during a proper drift. The reality when fly fishing at my age, is showing me, the long cast from shore it looks to me now a complicated way to work the surf, more like a primitive way of fly fishing the surf. First time I witnessed a guy using two fly rig like the New Zeland rig by only roll casting, he cast no more than 40’ of line drifting and back at it in less than 15 seconds, we count like 4 to 6 cast a minute, he was sharing the same rough surf conditions with 20 plus wind next to the guys throwing buck tails, they all catch fish but this guy was the only one with a fly rod out there that day catching, he actually spend more time and effort by getting the fish back to the water. All the way back to the cars we all talk about it. One of the guys point was. “If you think about it, just 4 cast at 40’ in less than a minute makes a 160’ cast, but with less effort and with full control over the flies from the very first second they enter in the zone” So that night I was talking to my pillow..., no retrieve no basquet, so less chances to tangle the running line or the two short 2 fly rig leader, less fatigue in fights with surf and wind coming from your casting side using short switch rods, just change hands, less concerns with guys walking behind or high banks. It looks less is more with this concept. I was exploring this option for the last few seasons, and fishing longer hrs is the first improvement I notes with this setups regarding the fatigue factor. Fishing also improve but I think it’s because my flies are longer time in the water, and it looks sometimes they are doing the right thing. best Viete
  15. Great build JettyLings. Tell us please more about the two flies rig, is a dropper rig? Or a New Zeland rig ? hows your leaders length and line lbs test and are tapered ? Welcome Thank you. Best Viete