tidewaterfly

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About tidewaterfly

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  • Birthday 09/25/1955

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  • About Me:
    I'm old. Been fishing for over 50 years. I'm an obsessed lure maker & fly tier.
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    fishing, fly fishing, fly tying, lure making, hunting, trapping, gardening & my grandkids
  • What I do for a living:
    Tackle maker, fly tyer & tinkerer!

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    Santee Cooper Lakes area, SC. Formerly MD, Chesapeake Bay Country!

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  1. The only "scents" I've ever tried & thought it was worth using has been the various Gulp/Gulp Alive products or products such as Fish Bites. I've also used "Smelly Jelly" on bass jigs, those with rubber or silicone skirts, but don't feel the scent has any value, but it gives the lure a different feel & they seem to hold on to it a little longer. I've used various scented plastics, and can't say they've produced any better than unscented. And by this, I mean plastics made with plastisol or the material that Z Man uses, not any biodegradable materials such as Gulp. Otherwise, I put no confidence in any scent unless it's from natural bait & I don't fish with natural baits very often. When I do it's primarily targeting catfish. I would never put scents on bucktails anyway. IMO, the movement of the hair is the main attraction, so don't need a scent.
  2. There have been various products come along over the past few years for tying, imitation legs & other appendages for nymphs, grasshoppers & such, and those curl tails made from a couple of materials. There's also a move towards more glitz and flash, and the makers of these products are all trying to get in on the trend. IMO, there are many flies now, that at one time, would have not been considered "proper". Makes no difference to me, I'm open to most things, but some simply do not appeal to me, so I haven't tried them. I've tied San Juan Worms for several folks, and have fished them myself, but have not tied with or used the plastic, Squirmly legs versions. They work, but frankly, I feel if I wanted to fish a plastic worm, then I can do it with other tackle. No matter what "new & innovative" products comes along, there's always going to be someone who won't like it.
  3. I fished a crystal clear river with a friend in FL, he lives there, and we were skipping senko type baits under the over hanging tree's as we drifted with the current. He fished that river often, I had been only once before and had used fly tackle. We used them rigged wacky style, and he was out fishing me 3 or 4 to 1. Most of the problem I was having was, I was moving the plastic with the rod tip, and he was simply lifting it enough to keep it from snagging, and letting the plastic do it's thing. When I would pay attention, and do likewise, I caught them too. There is a time when the fish want a lot of action, like with a swimbait, crankbait, or a big streamer fly, but not always and the problem is often recognizing when that may be and adjusting. I think it's difficult for a lot of people, because we tend to associate more as better, when it may not be.
  4. I still have some pork, and plenty of plastics so will fish them both. Have not as yet tried the other products. White works anytime, day or night, and I like having other options, so yes, having some bucktails in wine for night fishing would be something I would do. Haven't done any night fishing in many years. Plus, as far as using bucktails, I also like having different weight & size options, and tying them myself, have some that are dressed sparse and some fuller. It never hurts to have options available, and color is IMO, one of the least important. Profile/size, and weight for different fall rates and the ability to get the jig where necessary for depth & current adjustments, so they're in the strike zone is far more important. As long of course, as there are fish present. Otherwise, doesn't matter what you throw.
  5. Philly, you & I think somewhat alike. Shapes and profiles IMO, have some influence on whether a fish might grab these things. Same is true of that do nothing senko style plastic. However, it really does do something, like these flies it has a subtle undulating wiggle to it when it falls. These fish can see minute insects, so I have no doubt they can detect those subtle movements. But again, we often assume how the fish will react, and most folks want to add more. It's also very possible, that some of these imitations we use, and in which we impart movements, that we may over do it too many times. It's often said to "vary the action" but few people can get to that super slow level, where a fly or lure is barely moving. IMO, these fill that slot, and folks don't need to over think them to catch fish with them. Fishing experts always talk about "triggers", and IMO, sometimes it's not always the extreme movements that is the attraction, but the subtle. I'm sure you've watched various fish species follow your fly or lure and while you tried all kinds of things to entice them to bite, you wondered what they were seeing and why they didn't grab it, because it had great movement, and in the end they simply turn & swim away. Or, you simply stop the fly & let it fall, and they rush in & engulf it while the only movement is from the materials used. I know I have many times, yet many times as a fly lands on the water and begins to sink, with no additional movement added on my part a fish would lunge from an unseen location & grab it. That may be a reaction to the fly or lure landing on the water, but at that moment it's also when the angler is not usually doing anything but allowing the offering to move on it's own. I like flies & lures that have components that have plenty of movement, I've caught many fish with such offerings, but am sure it's too much sometimes, and I only make it a negative by adding more with how I move the fly when retrieving line. These types of flies, the Mop, and Green Weenie, are so simple, it's difficult to add too much, and as you've said about the movement, something barely noticeable, IMO, that's what makes them productive. I know many lure anglers who hate senko's, because they don't understand why they produce, just as there seems to be many who dislike these types of flies. On a bass fishing forum I frequent, many say they can't catch fish on senko's, and that they try fishing them by various techniques, but usually, they don't just let them fall on their own. It's probable that it's more because they're appearance & movement goes against our nature and what we think we see. Stubbornness and misguided perceptions add to that too because people like to be in control with what they're doing. I've also heard & read many times. "don't over work the fly (or lure)" and these Mops & senko's are examples of that when it's best to simply do nothing. I think sometimes it's a better idea to just let it go & let it happen.
  6. Hook I, it's my opinion, that way too many folks put to much stock in what they think a fly imitates. It's a fallacy of being human. We often assume way too much, because of what we see. I can't answer your question, because they may imitate many things that a fish might eat. It's possible they may also imitate nothing a fish might eat, but fish don't always grab a lure or fly due to hunger. The fact is, these mop strand concoctions do work, and many fish species will grab them. There is something about them that's attractive to these fish. Have you ever fished with a "senko" type plastic? Can you answer what they might imitate? Possibly various things, just as these mop flies do, but we can't ever really know for sure. Only matters that they do work.
  7. Stripercrazy, I've been making all kinds of jigs, spinnerbaits, buzzbaits and other lead based lures for a lot of years. Everything goes up in price, and I can't really say I've saved in making my own, as I keep adding to the addiction that making tackle can be. So, it's spent one way or another. I enjoy doing it, and can make what I want, so that's a benefit between making them & buying them. You can have custom lures made, but you'll spend to do it. I started with one Hilts mold, which I think was a basic round head in panfish sizes. Now, I have over 275 molds of various brands, and keep adding. I could have bought a lot of lures with what I've spent! Cadman T, thank you! The majority of fishing I've done & do now is freshwater, and for bass. I grew up in MD and fished the brackish tributaries of the Chesapeake Bay for bass, and now live in SC near the Santee Cooper lakes. I can see Lake Marion from my front porch, so still target bass the most, but I like chasing anything that I can. One reason I moved here was because there are both bass & Stripers in the lake. In those tidal rivers back in MD, I often caught both while fishing for one or the other, especially on spinnerbaits. I've made them in various sizes for both bass & Stripers and neither fish seems to be real particular about what they'll grab!
  8. So far, I have resisted the temptation to tie or fish them, but have no qualms about doing so. I have browsed some of the materials in various stores, just have not made a purchase. Like smath, I have tied & fished the "Weenie" patterns and San Juan worms in various colors, and for whatever reasons there are many folks who don't care for them either. Frankly, its my opinion that stubbornness can be directly related to a lack of fishing success sometimes. I try to be open minded, and fly fishing, as much as I enjoy it is not a spiritual ritual for me. In my youth, I had fished live baits & various lures with my fly gear, so using a bit of this material doesn't bother me one bit. Folks can do what they like, and I like tying and fishing, so what's on the end of my line will be something I feel I can have success with using, even if it's a strand of mop or bathrobe material!
  9. I first started tying in 1966, having gotten interested from reading magazine articles in publications such as Field & Stream, and Outdoor Life. In particular articles by Joe Brooks grew my interest. My father, who was not a fly fisher, bought me my first fly rod outfit, a Cortland 8 wt, about a year later and I've kept with it ever since.
  10. Thank you!
  11. For the places I've fished where I needed a weed guard, my preference has been for two types. One is like the two prong hard mono type that Conch27 shows in his second pic which has been good for hooks size 1 & smaller and the other type is a single strand stainless or tinned music wire folded over the hook point, similar to what Conch27 shows in his first pic. I've been using .015" stainless wire most, and that works well for hooks in the 1/0 to 5/0 size range. I have reversed the wire too on some flies, so that it results in a two prong guard that protects the point on each side. It takes less pressure to compress the wire on this type, but it can still snag if weeds get between the two prongs. Of course none of them are completely snag proof and if they are, they tend to also be fish proof too.
  12. Great looking flies! What part of the world will you be fishing them?
  13. Perhaps check with Witchcraft Tape Products to see if they have them as a stock item. Otherwise, they have a minimum order, but if you use a lot of them might be worth the order.
  14. I've never had a problem with a spinnerbait not running true with smaller blades. I've put blades on some that were too big for the weight & they would fall on their side. The friend I made these for is fishing water in MD that I've fished and it's generally shallow. Most places is 10' or less and a lot of it is less than 5'. The bass aren't real big either for the most part, not like you might find in FL. A 5 lb bass is a big one in MD and DE, and 2 to 4 are a lot more common. There are bigger caught, but not on a regular basis. I used to do well with 1/8 oz spinnerbaits molded on 1/0 or 2/0 size hooks and smaller blades than what's shown here and also caught some nice size panfish on them. I tossed bigger, heavier, too, but sometimes those smaller & lighter lures got more bites.
  15. bmac, I am, I started tying in 1966, but they were never my favorite fly type. They're a beautiful style when tied properly, but those wings tend to come apart too easily IMO and lose that nice appearance. Anyone who ties should try them, because it's a technique that can be useful. I tied many of the popular patterns, including Parmachene Belle, Red Ibis, Yellow Sally, and White Miller's, using duck & goose wing quill sections, but after fishing them, started tying variants using hairs and softer hackle fibers instead of the quill sections. They caught more fish and didn't look as ratty after several fish.