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  1. So what is wrong with an opaque floater with a longer leader. you may even grease the leader to get it all to float.
  2. I do agree with this, where they might get us is on landing. If they are mouth corner hooked and turn the opposing side with their mouth open, the line can get raked and part. This has only happened to me with gorilla blues and in situations I can only land fish in the water. In short, if we do out job. A corner hooked fish should get landed.
  3. Blues are a treat when we find them these days. Just carry one or two flies with wire pre-installed. Consider longer shanked hooks. Also consider putting a timer on how long you take releasing them, and release with the fly if you have too. I see so many folk mishandle blues, they are an equally valuable resource and contribute to the ecosystem.
  4. Right on George and I think sometimes the written word in forums can be miss interpreted. What I am alluding to was to answer Mike's initial query and larger ongoing query. Why do folk not understand the benefits/motivation behind 2H fly rodding fishing big water? and more primarily in some of Mikes other posts: Why don't people make the effort to become proficient casters? The context of my answer was not unmotivated. The simple reason is that some folk will say they want to improve or learn but never commit to the task. There really is no excuse for this, and linked to being undisciplined. Most folk are undisciplined.. This does not make us bad people, we may have other drives/priorities. It is much like how I have done a couple bucktailing lectures and several people say they want to learn. I recommend that they just fish bucktails for a season. I have yet to find an adult follow this advice. Learning/understanding anything requires effort and discipline. Most folk are content with mediocrity and will never put in the required 100% effort. I feel you are interpreting my comment as judging/insulting others. I am not. As a teacher you probably do categorize student's capabilities.....if you dont you can't possibly help the ones struggling. It is judgement. Categorization is not the same as insulting or looking down. I am sure you have students who are content with their skill level. When I was teaching, I find the bulk of students were content just getting by and no matter the effort I put in, it was challenging to motivate them. This was at a collegiate level. I quickly learned it was better to focus on the folk who were putting in the extra effort. Those individuals could be struggling, mediocre, or excelling, but their motivation was what they had in common. Helping folk who actually seek it and take action when guided. Spending time on those who dont follow instruction, robs the motivated students from proper attention/growth. If this is pointed at my comments. I am not ridiculing individuals, but I am classifying observed behavior. So the comparison is not exactly the same thing. My 14yo daughter fishes with me on occasion. I treasure that time. I dont judge her for not putting in the time, nor do I make her feel bad because she is not out there burning the candle at both ends. She is happy with her skill level and interval of time on the water. I learn from her and how she fishes. I agree we can learn from any angler and if we dont have that open perspective....we really will be missing out!!!! I also objectively classify her skill level and commitment. I dont share that with her directly. There is no malice in this. This is getting a bit off subject, feel free to call or pm me if you want to chat more.
  5. What you note is factual and has been going on for a decade. I felt the squeeze early....almost a decade ago it started here in the western LIS. Exponential decline. I have had to be mobile to find fish. It is not as easy as it used to be, we need to adapt and work harder for the scraps. Regarding big surf. In a number of locations I have found the only time I can get into numbers and sometimes quality is during a big surf event, even with the last couple of years. It can be like a magnet. I think the other factor is the seals. Some whitewater locations especially lower stages of the tide, seem to deter seals from entering where bass are feeding. It can take work to find this type of structure, but I have found it to be true in both hard and soft structure in a wide variety of locations/States here in the northeast. I am not afraid or deterred by slow fishing or the state of the fishery. I feel folk who beat themselves up for not catching anything are missing the point and might be undisciplined. I always fish like the fish are there...because often they are and we just need to convert them. What I was more noting is that the folk in LI are wired/experienced in snotty conditions, where I find everywhere else folk are not as experienced in fishing them. The last few times I fished montauk I always found fish. The very last trip a few years ago, it was bonkers. Weakfish bite....fall run...we left them biting. I find I get lucky or know what rocks to turn over. I definitely do my own thing which is sometimes an advantage over coloring in the lines.
  6. Hahahaha. what???? Everone tells me we need a drive kayak to catch fish, then I see this???? That must be some sort of AI sorcery at work.
  7. I think this is a regional phenomenon. On long island they come out of the woodwork, or at least used to. What I witness here in CT, RI, and MA, what you note is true. The beach is mostly absent of anglers. I think largely guys just dont know how to fish those conditions. The primary tool in my opinion, is the bucktail and most guys have no idea how to bucktail big surf or heavy wind conditions. In some of the conditions I have been in...I am still not sure if any flyrod rig can be effective, but it will be fun to find out....hahahahahahaha. This rig I have now is more like a surfrod than it is a flyrod.
  8. I think this is a common pitfall for fisherman. There was one guy I knew on of forum. Obsessed with surfcasting, blew out both his shoulders and had back issues. He was way young....late 20s early 30s. I dont think he fishes anymore. Correct what you can with lessons. Do shorter more targeted sessions. You need to live and be physically functional. Fish are not worth being disabled.
  9. Interesting video. I also poked around in some others posted on the user. Over the years I have spent some decent amount of time fishing whitewater. You could call it a preference and passion of mine. Reading and fishing whitewater can be a bit of an art and like flycasting, we want to be efficient in effort. The biggest thing is identifying water that fish have highest probability of feeding in, water we can reach, and can comfortably fight/land fish from. Real sloppy chaotic water can be less efficient to fish and also less productive. The take away beat is that not all big white water is created equal and I will search and target water of higher probability of greater success. That said, sometimes we are given lemons and we have to make the best of it. When I binge fish this is often the case. I cannot pick conditions. If I were to simply describe prime whitewater, you want something near a number of edges. So reefs, drop offs, etc. Watch a spot. The more channels of water entering and exiting one spot at different stages of different sets.....it can be a good spot. Variety of water movement is very good but it needs to be orderly not chaotic. Orderly with a pattern....like a network of temporal streams. They appear and are gone....then appear again.... You also want a spot you can reach the first set of water breaking. If you can reach a wave just as it breaks...and just beyond it, it can be money. I find often that if there is an outer break then an inner, the spot is far less productive. It is not a hard rule but more of an observation. The prefect white water waves to fish are the same ones that have the form that one would want to body surf....or surf. Bass will often surf in these waves...feeding. Ride the waves in....then take the rips back out....just like surfers. I will target both and with special attention on the rips after a huge set. The best spots you can fish the wave and the rips without moving. It is a dance of timing presentation. I am far better at it with bucktailing than I am with fly, but I am just starting to get it cooking on the fly. It is crazy challenging. Some of the water in those videos I would not walk into. Not because of fear of getting knocked down but if I were to link up with a fairly good specimen it might take me for a ride. It is a lot like what they say about Jetty fishing. Dont pick a spot to fish where you cannot land a good fish. When we consider Montauk or anywhere in the northeast in whitewater, there is always a shot at a large fish. I remember one year I saw a newspaper clipping hanging in in Mtk deli of a kid who caught a 64# bass in bright daylight on a bucktail in ditch plains. Monster. A couple years back I was scouting and took several large fish in the daylight. One fish was a half inch short of the 50" mark on my rod. This was on a bucktail within flycasting distance. I wish i had my flyrod!!! I always try to find a perch/casting point where I am calf deep or less and only on the biggest of sets I might get enveloped to waist deep. This has to be a somewhat protected perch with something to break the power of the waves before water floods to my location. You want good footing to fight a fish in the surf. It will increase your odds of success when that special fish comes along. Secondary, but also important...it is just safer for us.
  10. This is a critically important note. So many flyrodders and surfcaster end up with physical problems, back, arm, shoulder, wrist....etc. I will say that as my cast has improved with a single hander I have reduced my fatique but not completely....especially in wind. I have been lucky to not have any serious injury, yet......, but if I were to get injured I am certain it will be from fly casting and over doing it. From the little experience I have had, the 2H has such a nice lower impact. BTW. I like all your other notes as well and feel aligned with them. I feel the indexing on rough conditions is only a small part of the advantage.
  11. Call local tackle shops or ping folk who are on this site and fish the cape. the Massachusetts forum. Mung can arrive on a beach or be taken away with a good storm. Really need to scout it ourselves. A lot of folk target the moon tides but sometines those high levels pick it all up and can make fishing impossible. sometimes the weaker moon phases can be better to fish in some spots.
  12. I think you are taking this personal and not being objective. I am self aware and rate myself mediocre at best and I am a decent fisherman. This is not an equipment thing....or a judgement of our love of the sport. This is a statement of skill level and our understanding of the fishery. Most of us are not equiped to be excellent. Most anglers I see on the water display average skill or below average. Again, objective observation, not anything judgemental or intending disrespect. In any discipline the mob is mediocre. Then there may be the 2% that are brilliant and operate at a level we may not ever understand. Straight up I am not dedicated enough nor have the natural talent to be excellent. I have to work at even being mediocre....hahaha. My recent experiences bonefishing are prime example. The guides operate at a level I never will reach. they can sight fish at 150 yards and I struggle spotting them at 30. They can present a fly pefectly with only a false cast. I cannot. I seek opportunity to fish out of my comfort zone as it keeps thing real. Most folk think they are excellent, but really they are lumped into the mediocre mob with the rest of us.
  13. @numbskull Do you fish any whitewater conditions and if so have you found a down tick in the weather that promotes those conditions the last two years? I am struggling to remember the last decent white water event. Granted, my family responsibilities have increased the last couple years so it could be that I live under a rock. We used to have tropical storms that would push though and drive the surf on during the bookends of the season, now we dont have anything of significance or sustained. There used to be big surf conditions for whole weeks or weeks on end. some of those outings provided both quality and quantity.
  14. What state do you fish? I fish the northeast. NY, CT, RI, MA. In my opinion, I have found that most haunts will not draw in numbers of bass unless there is herring, bunker, or white water. There are windows where if sandeels are present we can fish those classic scenarios too but if you want 15-40#...you mostly need the prior. A decade ago it was a different story...so much more bass and bait around. I dont care what anyone tells me but there is an environmental thing going on right now that is blanket reducing the whole fishery and ecosystem. There were locations in my home waters where I saw endless parades of sandeels and football fields of porgie/scup. Dead....Dead...Dead....now. Spring and fall runs are weak. White water conditions in my windows have been weak. That said, there are spots I want and need to try 2H flyrodding. The rod I have is wasted on school fish. I think it would not be fun....or prove utility. This is not a 2H flyrod thing, I believe that 2H overhead is such a great thing. Folk will avoid it because it is not accessible and requires personal change and potential engineering. I understand..even I am struggling with it. Both because of my experience and also because even my single hand cast needs help. @Mike Oliver There is something about anything in flyfishing that discounts anything is not traditional or iconic. Tenkara is an example...not understood. $hitcanned instantly. Probably, much like 2h overhead, Folk try it a couple times, dont understand it, then shelve it. Most novel methods need more incubation time. Even flyfishing is an example. I am on a dedicated fourth season and still learning where it utility lands. It is great for small fish...and numbers of fish. Stuff I generally avoided with my spinning outfit. I tend to target th2 15-25# slot....as in this fishery they are the most fun and the size that can still recover when released. I dont discourage larger or smaller fish, but it is not what I am after. I want to do the same with a flyrod but have not connected the dots with any reliability. I would say most of my larger fish were incidental. Mostly I feel it is a limitation of profile presentation size. Yes, elephants can eat peanuts but that plays out an odd interval.
  15. Awesome!!!!! Congrats @yarddog59 !!!
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