Punk Freud

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  1. That is an awsome set of lures! Hey, any chance of a closeup pic of the Popeye and Spinach Can lures?
  2. Anything by Stanley Kubrick.
  3. When, in the course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bonds which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the laws of nature and of nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation. We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security. --
  4. If this isn't the epitome of a troll post what is? What is this? Megalomania, persecution complex, or just cuckoo? Hmmm? Like tapping phones, reading mail, strip searches at airports, sneak and peak invasions of private homes? You mean those restrictions which do destroy freedom and trust between people and it's government Like the 109th do nothing congress which failed to even enforce basic ethic rules for 8 years? Those hardcore extremists? Glad to be of assistance John. The founding fathers were primarily Deists, and there were a number of freemasons. Add to that the transcendental philosophies emerging from europe and you have the bedrock on which ideas such as life liberty and joy can be established as a social construct. See that's the catch, you need an understanding of one's place in the material and metaphysical world before you can build a society or nation. The basic understanding of the founders, in essence, is that human kind is a brotherhood. However, because some men refuse to follow their conscience we must protect ourselves for their inequity. That's what government does. It is a necessary evil, a badge of shame that is proportionate is size to the amout of inequity in society. when you have a corrupt society government increases in size to mitigate those inequities. This process becomes a corrution in and of itself when corrupt people run govenment. Tom Delay, Duke Cunningham, Frist, Cheney et al. So to answer your question it is enlightened-self-interest which serves as the foundaton from which luxuries such as life and liberty and joy emerge. It is fundamentally about freedom of mind followed by freedom of association, and freedom of action. All of which are proper only when guided by right conduct, conscious action and the adherance to ones moral compass. Something about square, measure and circumscribe?
  5. Plugchucker, Keep in mind an aquarium can support approx 1 inch of fish per gallon of water. Less fish is better to help maintain nitrite, nitrate, and amonia levels. A 5 gallon tank will held about 5 neon tetras, or 5 guppies or 5 similarly sized fish. A ten gallon is a great starter size. I use 10s for breeding and quarentine befor they go into the big puddle If your budget allows I would use a Tetra brand external filter. Real easy to clean, quiet, and will keep the water crystal clear as ong as the chemistry is balance. Skip the undergravel filter, a real mess to clean and not the best for water clarity. I like the idea of catching killies for the tank. I'm even considering a temperate saltwater tank based on that recommendation. I can see sand eels, mullet and spot eagerly awaiting feeding time. Striper feeding that is. Fish keeping is a great hobby for kids of any age. Good luck
  6. Hey Dan, what's up. Nice view heading towards Hippie Hill. if ya have to ask... ye'r a tourist. BTW Valley Creek is a toxic waste dump.
  7. If FnM did implode and I were in the vicinity it would trigger a apocalyptic cascade of lowly peons to increase in order of magnitude sufficient enough to eviscerate any nearby foxnewsium, thereby vaporizing all the Bushcronium on the planet.
  8. The taxpayers and the public are the victims of the corporate malfesance. I don't care if criminal CEOs go to prison. I want them to be held accountable and to make amends to the public through treasure and community service. Just like a drunk driver, the CEOs should do serious community service commesurate with their transgressions.
  9. Really? I guess all those liberals at enron, Arthur Anderson, Adelphia Communications, Global Crossing, Kmart, Merck, Qwest Communications International, et al. too many to listem all, are just victims of circumstance...social liberalism. pfft, you should be ashamed of yourself.
  10. You cannot offer a simple example or explantion that will stand up to scrutiny? I personally think the concepts are thinly veiled rationalizations intended to bamboozle the lowly working poor into accepting the status quo. Those concepts makes it appear that without capital, labor is useless and a burden on the rich.
  11. And my original point is that countries which have higher rates of public spending and taxes have a higher quality of life and better outcomes for what they do spend. But then they are not dominated by capitalist thinking that puts individuals above common good. The problem is the character of the American public. Every man for themselves and dog eat dog. Where's the shared sacrifice? Whatever happed to the idea that American workers were the best in the world? It's a ship of fools trying to one-up one another.
  12. These seem like words used to support a rationalization not natural law? What do you mean by zero-sum gain? You did mean gain not game right? And what exactly is the relationship between ecomomic growth and value creation? What about comparitive advantage and Ricardo's Law as they specifically relate to externalities such as environmental contamination and social inequities
  13. These are specific examples, which fail to illuminate the big picture. What about the silt runoff from logging which is choking the Klamath River and decimating salmon and dungeness crabs? There is no logging company paying for that, is there? There are always exceptions to the rule. But by and large corporation do profit at taxpayer expense. Meanwhile there are people blameing government assistance to the poor as the root of all economic disparity. Gimme a break, the rich screw the poor. It's a historical fact not a theory.
  14. I think a definition of wealth is required befor we can even have a reasonable discussion. There are two basic forms of goods and service Profit making and loss leaders. Police do not make profits but without police it's unlikely anyone but the strongest and most ruthless will have profits. Same with trees. Without trees ecology will die and so will we. I suggest that quality of life MUST be factored into any equasion of wealth. Whereas it seems both you and JohnW suggest that wealth is a measure of personal economic standing. I think that is both short sighted and selfish. Some here like to use the term "being forced" to do things, like give back to the community, as a reasonable action in recognition of the communities sacrifice. If you chop down trees that means someone else is denied access to those same trees. In essence, one person is deprived of the resource while another profits. If we the people agree to let a private party develope a resource it's socially responsible that the private party reimburse or compensate other parties which are denied access to the resource. If you don't like the tree example lets talk about water right in the western US states. If cattle farmers get water that means vegtable farmers don't. Noto to mention how individuals must ration when cattle farmers have more than they deserve. Trees are wealth, which in turn can be refined into more desireable products. Following your logic crude oil is not wealth, only gasoline and diesel fuel are (refined products).
  15. Clearly the Magician has raised some issues of dissonance. Why else focus on the messenger and not the message?
  16. I suggest that if any corporation reaps rewards from using public lands, that is a redistribution of wealth (theft of commonwealth property). It becomes even more egregious when the timber, coal, oil, mineral wealth is provided to private parties BELOW market value. Why should a private company sell timber at taxpayer expense and then keep the profits? Because of special interests, lobbists, and corruption. Consider that the logging roads are developed by taxpayers, the resulting environmental damage is cleaned up by the taxpayer, the loss of hunting and fishing grounds are paid for by taxpayers, and pollution from processing the timber is paid for by taxpayers all the while timber companies get tax incentives to cut down more forests andf the CEO/shareholder gets subsidized by ... The Taxpayer. It's shameful and a disgrace that anyone would support these big industries and their entitlements.
  17. Where is the table mentioned? Who paid for the report? What is most distressing is how the paragraph attempts to put the weight on "entitlements" that go to poor, sick, and elderly citizens of the USA. It's shameful and selfish to single out the most needy Americans. Meanwhile, how big was dick Cheneys tax break last year? If he gave away 6.8 million and that is 77% of AGI who's really reaping the benefits of entitlements? See above Cheney tax break Again, the target is the poor. Who disproportianatly uses mass transportation? Not CEOs. it's the janitors, dishwashers, waitstaff, and receptionist types. Single, working poor, minority and elderly people. Yeah, lets do away with public transportation so the poor can suffer more hardship just getting to their wage slavery jobs. You have to be heartless to pick on the working poor. Why no outcry over corporate agriculcture subsidies, big pharma tax breaks, and big oil subsidies? The futility is in finding honest and morally upright walking statesmen/statespeople. You don't find much budgeting futility in: Netherlands, Sweden, Spain, Canada, Belgium ect. This is because money trumps honesty, and peace too evidently. That is perhaps the only relevant issue presented in the entire C&P And sadly, the article ends by linking the welfare state (commonwealth) and political battels over money and by extension power/control. The real battle is between have and have-not, insiders and outsiders. The nonsense of R vs L is a political wedge which plays to insecurities such as wealth, terror, masculinity, religious zealotry, and bigoted zenophobia.
  18. This C&P is intellectually dishonest and morally bankrupt. It's not surprising to see such an overtly biased cut and past from the usual suspects. Lets start with the basic premise before we disect the content. "The USA is a social welfare state". The implication here is that social welfare is subordinbate or less desireable to a free market, aka capitalism. What is this premise based on? 19th century economic "theory" proposed by John Stewart Mills. Sadly, the facts are in after over 200 years of trial and error(s). Capitalism succeeds in one area only, consolidation of weath in the hands of a minority. Any doubts? Just look at income distribution and the means of the accumulated wealth. What is not theory or in dispute is how social welfare states such as: Netherlands Sweden Spain Canada Belgium ect All have higher standards of living, universal healthcare, better educational outcomes, lower infant mortality, lower crime ect. Doubt that, check out the UN Human Development Index report, or UNICEF's
  19. you are right on with that observation.
  20. Lots of people also saw through the schtick. Anyone who wanted to could have googled Project for a New American Century (PFNAC). War and regime change are central tenets of the neo-conservative agenda. That document predates 9-11-2001. Additionally, Clinton (both of them) advocated regime change prior to 9-11. War was with Iraq was inevitable under any corporatist administration. Too many billions of dollars at stake. "Money trumps peace sometimes". quote GWB 2/14/2007
  21. Quote: Originally Posted by fish'nmagician Punk, you need to reexamine history, she did not vote for a war in Iraq, that is purely Republican spin. Pennman Nonnsense! She voted for a resolution that gave the President authorization to do what he's Constitutionally mandated to do. Precisely what do you think that resolution authorized....marshmellows, KUMBYA, and camp fires?? Agreed, she is responsible for authorizing GWB for getting a green light to start war Bush said he needed the threat of war, in order to keep the peace. He claimed he viewed war as a last resort. And it was! How many UN resolutions did Hussein ignore??? How many opportunities did Hussein have to prove he didn't have wmds??? How many times did we warn him that he was going to get his a$$ kicked if he didn't wise up???? C'mon.....a little intellectual honesty, puhleeze! Take your own advise, be honest. Powell went to the UN and LIED about WMDs Tennet Lied about the aluminum tubes and yellow cake Condi, Cheney, and G-dub all lied about the mushroom clouds. All at the behest of the commander in chief He fricken lied," Pennman Frickin'" PROVE IT!!!! You know...... "INTENT TO DECEIVE", "KNOWINGLY MISLEAD" and so forth........yeah, PROVE he "fricken lied" and wasn't simply acting on the best intelligence he had available at the time.....the same intelligence that the Dems had...... 16 words in the 2003 SotUA says it all. He lied and the intelligence was fixed around the policy. see also: Downing Street Memos...the smoking gun on G-dubs lies. and now the Republicans want to mischaracterize the intent of the resolution, and what Bush had said it was, in order to pass some blame across the aisle Pennman So, what's your point???? That the Dems were too freakin' stupid to recognize that they were being "lied" to?????? All of them????????.....hmmmmmmm, not saying much for your guys, is it? NO, the truth is they were cowards, not stupid. The rabib nationalistic movent following 9-11-2001 made those who voted for the war fear for their jobs so they voted to save their asses not the soldiers lives.
  22. That's my first point...she's republican lite Yep, That's true. She is to beholden to the insurance and big pharma industries, and that's why no change in the healthcare system. In fact under the Clinton administration heathcare was privatized at an astonishing rate, leading to skyrocketing healthcare costs. Look at how that crooked smile Bill Frist gamed the healthcare system Bill and Hillary fostered
  23. Well are you spinning anything here? She did not vote for a war...that's spliting hairs. She voted to use force and I think she understood the consequences. If not, she's unfit for higher office. Yes, the Republicans have lied about just about everything! But her vote was reckless and she knew it. She needs to own up to the stupidity of giving away congressional authority to start a war. She is in a tough spot, of her own making. She tried to triangulate the Iraq and terrorism issues to boost her standing. Remember her recent anti-flag burning proposal? She is an opportunistic politician, just like Joe Liarman. Please don't resort to demeaning "most Americans" as too stupid just because they see through Hillary's faux populist agenda. She is all about Big Business...Wall Mart, Tyson Farms, et al. Wesley Clark or John Edwards are much better choices.
  24. I agree, no way! Two major reasons: First, she is DLC (corporatist, DINO) She is republican lite. Second, she won't take back her authorization for war. This is a huge issue and deserves it's own thread. In summary, she doesn't regret her vote for war, she regrets how Bush handled it. That means she does/did endorse regime change and pre-emptive war. She's about as big a sell-out as Joe Loserman. But Joe is King of the Sell-outs.