I have been looking into both those lakes, and would like to make a trip to them, the problem is that in New Jersey you need some sort of boater safety course, which I don't have. Also from what I have heard about both is that they have heavy boat traffic on weekends which is understandable both being larger lakes in populated areas. As far as the "Larry", as I have been seeing it called this, I plan on making as many trips up there as possible. We have some great Musky fishing in Wisconsin, but from what I have heard this place is about 10 times better for size. I have heard that the Larry is trolled primarily, does anyone throw Lures up there or is that just a lost cause? Obviously I realize that you have better chances trolling, but just very much enjoy casting for Muskys. Also, I have been doing some reading about Susquehanna River in Penn. does anybody have any info on where is a good area on that to fish for Musky? b/c it is a huge river. Also, I have read some archived online articles about Black Lake, which is pretty close to the Larry, and have heard that it is a hidden gem of sorts, but all these articles that I have been reading are pretty old, and I believe that they quit stocking there. Any more info is greatly appreciated. Thank you for the info Mike.