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Hooks That Ride Point Up?

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lisurfer49

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You might try a jig hook, like the Eagle Claw 413, and tie the bucktail off the forward part of the shank. It will look funny. So what?





 Jig hook has to have weight to make it flip over or it will ride point down like any other hook.


A method I've been using for 40 some years now to flip a hook over is to tie a strip of twist-ems(lead strip,matchbook style packing) along the top of the hook and just into the bend,will flip almost any hook but works best w/ a sproat type bend,common in many SW hooks.You can tie a streamer,shrimp,crab,whatever on the hook once weighted as such.All flies below are tied w/ a strip along the top to flip it over.1622998


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Yeah! Been experimenting with those hooks in 5/0. A few patterns came out nice that I think will work, I like yours a lot. Who makes that hook? Seems a bit inconsistent between companies with the amount of room behind the eye to work with, seems like yours has more then the ones I've been finding.


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Slip n Slide thats a great idea. Can you keep the weight significantly down in comparison to a clouser? This is for fishing rocky areas like Montauk and the like from shore.







The amount you need to flip it is way less'n a pr of lead or brass eyes.An individual strip weighs .07gms.A pr of 5/32 brass eyes weighs .08 grms.Half that strip will flip a 1/0 hook,just make sure you run it part way into the bend to end up just above the point where the barb sticks up.The strip along the top helps in changing the center of balance but the lil bit that goes into the bend is what really allows less weight to work so well.I like to taper the ends to a point w/ nailclippers to make a neater tie off.Leave enough room at the front to finish off a head as you would normally tie.The Bartleet salmon hooks and the curved shank/tapered eye steelhead hooks are great shapes for a fly that relentlessly rides point up even in a strong current using the lead strip and are my preference for many crustacean flies.Hooks w/ a round bend don't work so well w/ this,for instance,a GamiSP11-3L3H is a hook shape not good for the strip flip.The Gami SC15,



SL11&12,mustadC68,daiichii2546,TMC811 etc.. are perfect for the flip.



SteinGM took that strip idea and ran w/ it and made up some cool streamers that ride point up.


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