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jwilly

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I have a GLoomis 10'6 Surf Series 1/2-3 oz rod thats about 12 years old. Its in pretty good condition considering the use Ive gotten out of it but its definitely time for a cleanup/rebuild. My question is, what would should I do with it? I dont want to change the way it looks other than maybe more modern guides. Who would you send it to to have it cleaned up and how much should this cost me? 


Also, while on a slightly different topic, I am ready to replace the reel I had on there before. I am interested in super light spinners such as the Ballistic 4000. Any opinions or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.


 



Thanks in advance for your thoughts. 


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If you're suffering an impulse towards something new and different ... you're probably better off selling it as is, and putting the money aside as a down payment on something new.

Blank technology has improved in the past 12 years and you're not going to match a new CTS or Century or St. Croix or Lami blank by fitting new guides to an older blank.

 

More important: is there something specific that you want a new rod to do that the older rod couldn't handle? That's a better point of departure.

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Sounds to me like you have the perfect opportunity to learn how to wrap your own rod. It's not hard at all and you'll probably have fun with it. I still use the first rod I ever built which was almost 30 years ago and all I had to build that rod was my own two hands and a book to run the winding thread through. Spend some time in the rod building forum and pick up some pointers. You'll probably surprise yourself at how good a rod you can build for yourself. Good luck.

 

-Valentine

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Don't know too much about the rebuild but I was also wondering about light weight reels for surfcasting or inshore fishing. Below is a little table I made:


Product Model Bearings Gear Ratio Line Per Handle Wt. Line Capacity Drag
Number Turn (Inches) (oz.) (Lb. Test / Yards) Max
Daiwa Ballistic EX BLS-EX4000H 10 5.6:1 39.9 13.9 10/300, 12/260, 14/210 17.6
Abu Garcia Orro Inshore Spinning ORRA2INS60 9 5.6:1 35 14.4 250/12 205/14 150/20 20
Lew's® Speed Spin® Inshore Series INS4000 6 6.1:1 38 10 220/14 15
Shimano Rarenium CI4 6000 6000 7  4.6:1   30 11.1 16lb/240m, 20lb/180m, 24lb/150m  24

These are four reels are the only ones I have found so far but there might be more. The Shimano Rarenium is a non-US model and I'm not sure if the Orro Inshore is available yet. Hope this helps. 

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Don't sell that rod Willy, for one it's no longer made, true craftsmanship was put into those older Loomis and the new thin walled blanks that are all the rave now don't even come close to the quality & performance of the older Loomis. I have this rod & several other Loomis that I will never sell or trade. You can re-wrap it with new guides in the same size just keep them in the same spot, If you were to sell that rod and put it up on the BST I guarantee it won't last 10min, Good Luck with the rebuild,

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If you refurbish the rod it will lose much of its potential re-sale value. If you are not already a skilled rod builder a re build is much more difficult than starting on a new clean blank. Taking off old guide epoxy is very time consuming and just one slip of the blade in the many you will require and the rod is toast. You will need to use a blade don't believe for one moment that heat is your friend it is not.

 

It is so easy when putting on new guides to trash your blank. You need to know how to set your guides feet and set the right wrapping pressure or you can cause the guides to migrate into the blank wall. It is not just about fining down the end of the guides. Personally I would never buy a rod secondhand that had been home built for these reasons. You can learn how to rod build but don't expect to learn how in five minutes. Best to teach yourself on a clean cheap blank. If the guides are essentially sound then no reason to remove them. Even modern guides and new layouts will make very little no none in terms of performance increases.

Some rust is normal and unless you changed out for titanium guides rust will effect any other metal material over time.

Some rods have better blanks that those available 12 years ago but not all. A rod like this which has already stood the test of time is not to be considered as easily replaced. FWIW I still fish both fly and surf rods that are over 25 years old and they would still be considered competitive with much of todays cost reduced but high priced products.

 

Your call.

 

Mike

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You have a very quality stick... I understand why you want to treat it to a refurb!! you said its in rough shape but is it really to the point it won't still catch you fish? If not, use that baby till it fails and then look into the warranty options for a replacement with gloomis... :)

 

a rod with some mojo that shows use isnt a bad thing.

 

 

If you're set on having it rebuilt look for someone very reputable and talk to them about options (what they recommend and then the cost if you trust them and what they reccomend).

 

as an aside, the reels you're suggesting are pretty light and possibly on the smaller end for a rod that size. Plus the retrieve ratio... try them out with your rod to make sure it feels good in the hand and does the job if you can. Light is always a plus but a balanced setup is important!!

 

Good luck

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I have the exact same rod in my basement. I picked it up for $50 about 5 years ago. I have prob used it a handful of times in the past few years but would never sell it. Such a fantastic rod.

It all started last year during a terrible thunderstorm, when I locked myself out of the house. Shelving myself with a large piece of sheet metal, I ran for cover under the tallest tree I could find!
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Sold a 1266 2-3 years ago - and feel like I have been chasing trying to replicate its action and versatility through today's super customs. Wish I wouldn't have sold it. The FSC 1266 Predator is probably the closest I've gotten....

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