feetinsand Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 With the increased interest of clamming FYI January 10, 2014 NJ DEPARTMENT of ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION Water Resource Management Water Monitoring & Standards Marine Water Monitoring Public Notice of the Suspension of Harvest from Shellfish Beds Dangerous to Health Navesink River, Upper Barnegat Bay, and Ludlam Bay In accordance with N.J.S.A. 58:24-1, the Department has inspected places within the jurisdiction of the State from which oysters, clams or other shellfish are taken to be distributed or sold for use as food, for the purpose of ascertaining the sanitary conditions of such oyster and clam beds and other places. As a result of those inspections, the Department has determined that certain waters do not meet the standards for their classification as "Approved" and "Special Restricted" set forth in the Shellfish Growing Water Classification rules at N.J.A.C. 7:12. Accordingly, pursuant to N.J.A.C. 7:12- 1.5(b) and the statutory authority granted the Department of Environmental Protection at N.J.S.A. 58:24-2 to ensure that the public health is not at risk from the consumption of shellfish that may have been subjected to pollution or other condition that may render the shellfish dangerous to health, the Department, as of 1/9/15, suspends the harvest of shellfish from the following waters: Navesink River Upper Barnegat Bay Ludlam Bay More information (including maps) can be found at http://www.nj.gov/dep/bmw/publicnotice/10915.pdf Any questions can be directed to the Bureau of Marine Water Monitoring at (609) 748-2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sudsy Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ahh crap !! Does RJ know about this ?? I just wanta play everyday despite small nagging injuries -- and go home to a woman who appreciates how full of crap I truly am. ~ Crash Davis Social Distancing since 1962 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bigdeal Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Hmmmmm........good on Linguini. "Law enforcement’ is not something sovereign citizens seize from police officers. It is a societal function that citizens delegate to civil police. In so doing, we do not abdicate our own sovereignty, nor our duties as citizens. Ultimate responsibility is still ours. When those we hire as our “Protectors” are either unwilling or unable to perform that function at the critical moment, there is no law, nor standard, that says we cannot perform it for ourselves"........ John Farnam. "Gird Your Loins" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellNJ Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Quote:Originally Posted by Sudsy Ahh crap !! Does RJ know about this ?? Does not affect the section of the Navesink where we clam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feetinsand Posted January 12, 2015 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Ahh crap !! Does RJ know about this ?? Does not affect the section of the Navesink where we clam. Crap..that is what it is... fecal coliform. So the affected area is "upstream" from where you harvest. Note that they are only taking water samples...not sampling the clams. I was always of the impression that **** flows down hill or in this case downstream. I think that I would investigate a bit further (considering their parameters) before consuming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellNJ Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 Crap..that is what it is... fecal coliform. So the affected area is "upstream" from where you harvest. Note that they are only taking water samples...not sampling the clams. I was always of the impression that **** flows down hill or in this case downstream. I think that I would investigate a bit further (considering their parameters) before consuming. They do monitor the area east of there and it's clean and safe. The section that is closed, I would never eat a clam from. Ever. Clamming has been restricted there anyway. They are just reiterating the same info on a new report. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Egg Posted January 12, 2015 Report Share Posted January 12, 2015 From looking at 10915.pdf Navesink and Shrewsbury maps, it appears that the new reg has not changed the area for "Seasonal" harvest that was in effect for 2013-2014. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Crap..that is what it is... fecal coliform. So the affected area is "upstream" from where you harvest. Note that they are only taking water samples...not sampling the clams. I was always of the impression that **** flows down hill or in this case downstream. I think that I would investigate a bit further (considering their parameters) before consuming. Doesn't the effect of the the high bring some of the undesirable stuff back or keep it in the clam zone.... or does the current of the river negate that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Doesn't the effect of the the high bring some of the undesirable stuff back or keep it in the clam zone.... or does the current of the river negate that? high " tide" that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchellNJ Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Quote:Originally Posted by MarkG Doesn't the effect of the the high bring some of the undesirable stuff back or keep it in the clam zone.... or does the current of the river negate that? Not sure i understand what "clam zone" means. "Keep" would indicate that there is an issue present. Let me reiterate... There is nothing wrong with the water where we clam. I know our daily crier was simply trying to bring attention to the latest report but it has nothing to do with the water quality at the mouth of the Navesink. It refers to the area miles inland in Red Bank. I am no marine biologist so I cannot speak to the effects of water dispersion, current flow or the biology of the fecal coliform bacteria. Since I cannot provide any scientific fact, I will refrain from spreading panic or suggesting that there is something wrong when there clearly is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Not sure i understand what "clam zone" means. "Keep" would indicate that there is an issue present. Let me reiterate... There is nothing wrong with the water where we clam. I know our daily crier was simply trying to bring attention to the latest report but it has nothing to do with the water quality at the mouth of the Navesink. It refers to the area miles inland in Red Bank. I am no marine biologist so I cannot speak to the effects of water dispersion, current flow or the biology of the fecal coliform bacteria. Since I cannot provide any scientific fact, I will refrain from spreading panic or suggesting that there is something wrong when there clearly is not. I was referring to "feetinsand" comment on the clam beds being upstream from the affected downstream tested area. I 'm just wondering why the tial effect wouldn't bringsome of the material upstream....just wonderin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bido Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 I was referring to "feetinsand" comment on the clam beds being upstream from the affected downstream tested area. I 'm just wondering why the tial effect wouldn't bringsome of the material upstream....just wonderin' The closure area is upstream/upriver. Dilution is the solution to pollution. Of course, waking up with Hep A one day will have you questioning that logic. I would never eat any raw shellfish from NJ waters, that's for sure. "Where is my mind? Waaaaay out in the water see it swimming?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 The closure area is upstream/upriver. Dilution is the solution to pollution. Of course, waking up with Hep A one day will have you questioning that logic. I would never eat any raw shellfish from NJ waters, that's for sure. Tidal dilution then actually is a thang.....good to know. Thanks. I've had clams that were advertised assupposedly coming from the Hook/Raritan bay. Long Branch Shoprite to be exact. Been buying & eatin for years w/o any issues. Of course I cook them for a white clam sauce. Haven't done a raw dinner and probaaly won't after this. Don't need sicknes w/"hurlage" in the family. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bido Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 Tidal dilution then actually is a thang.....good to know. Thanks. I've had clams that were advertised assupposedly coming from the Hook/Raritan bay. Long Branch Shoprite to be exact. Been buying & eatin for years w/o any issues. Of course I cook them for a white clam sauce. Haven't done a raw dinner and probaaly won't after this. Don't need sicknes w/"hurlage" in the family. A lot of NJ waters are "special restricted", meaning the clams have to also be put through a purification plant prior to being sold at market. I suspect the shellfish you'd buy at Shoprite would have been purified. Cooking always helps kill what could squeeze through. Condemned waters are strictly no take. "Where is my mind? Waaaaay out in the water see it swimming?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkG Posted January 13, 2015 Report Share Posted January 13, 2015 A lot of NJ waters are "special restricted", meaning the clams have to also be put through a purification plant prior to being sold at market. I suspect the shellfish you'd buy at Shoprite would have been purified. Cooking always helps kill what could squeeze through. Condemned waters are strictly no take. Good to know. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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