nosajwp Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 There are lots of new patterns out there these days, some of them quite specialized using the latest materials, etc. What are some of the more classic, time tested, and proven patterns that don't take a ton of different materials to make? Things like Clousers, Deceivers, Seaducers, etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skip S Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 The 3 you mentioned are deadly and I would add the bendback streamer,Joe Brooks Blonde series and the glass minnow.Dan Blantons Whistler is also one of my favorites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRT Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 I'd happily fish with a fly box just containing clousers, half/half's, BT deceivers and Gurglers. Oh and maybe a Ray's Fly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidewaterfly Posted November 30, 2014 Report Share Posted November 30, 2014 Things like Clousers, Deceivers, Seaducers, etc? These 3 have been my most used & most productive over many years of fishing. However, I too would add some of the other styles mentioned. There are at least a few of every one of them in my fly boxes. The only one I don't tie much is the Whistler, but it's right there with the rest as a excellent pattern to have. IMO, much of "new" is the rehashing of the old with newer materials now available. Nothing wrong with that, as there's a time & place for all. Simply from a tying perspective, most of us probably enjoy experimenting with the newer materials. I certainly do, but won't shy away from what has always worked either. The fact is you can tie all of these older styles with a couple of packs of strung saddle hackle, some bucktails and some flash and for a variety of fish species. All materials being relatively inexpensive. Of course you have to add your thread, hooks & other necessary materials, but you would have to do that anyway. There's a reason these classic patterns have survived these many years & with the influx of "new' patterns & materials. No one likes to be behind the big truck, but it's better than being under it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisherman Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Look up my series on this site called "Old Time Flies." I think I did seven or eight of them. Here are the first three: http://www.stripersonline.com/t/678227/old-time-flies-part-1-the-magog-smelt http://www.stripersonline.com/t/679131/old-time-flies-part-2-the-black-ghost http://www.stripersonline.com/t/681582/old-time-flies-part-3-the-mickey-finn To this series I would certainly add Ray's Fly. It's only decades old, but I think it qualifies as a classic for its simplicity and effectiveness. Steve Culton "We fish for pleasure; I for Mine, you for yours."-- James Leisenring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisherman Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 There's a reason these classic patterns have survived these many years & with the influx of "new' patterns & materials. About a year ago I was reading some whippersnapper's blog. He wrote a piece where he suggested that the old style trout streamers fell out of favor because they weren't articulated and didn't push water and slimmed down to nothing in the water and other such things. Maybe he will learn someday. :-) Steve Culton "We fish for pleasure; I for Mine, you for yours."-- James Leisenring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jabster Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 These 3 have been my most used & most productive over many years of fishing. However, I too would add some of the other styles mentioned. There are at least a few of every one of them in my fly boxes. The only one I don't tie much is the Whistler, but it's right there with the rest as a excellent pattern to have. IMO, much of "new" is the rehashing of the old with newer materials now available. Nothing wrong with that, as there's a time & place for all. Simply from a tying perspective, most of us probably enjoy experimenting with the newer materials. I certainly do, but won't shy away from what has always worked either. The fact is you can tie all of these older styles with a couple of packs of strung saddle hackle, some bucktails and some flash and for a variety of fish species. All materials being relatively inexpensive. Of course you have to add your thread, hooks & other necessary materials, but you would have to do that anyway. There's a reason these classic patterns have survived these many years & with the influx of "new' patterns & materials. Right on! Really all the fly's that I tie and many others are just spin offs from the classics. You don't have to invent the wheel again. You can just reshape it to your own needs. If you can tie a deceiver and then work on the hollow technique and can incorporate that in your flies you can do just about any shape and size there is when it comes to streamers/baitfish patterns. Of course add an clouser to that and you have the mini flies covered as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tidewaterfly Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 About a year ago I was reading some whippersnapper's blog. He wrote a piece where he suggested that the old style trout streamers fell out of favor because they weren't articulated and didn't push water and slimmed down to nothing in the water and other such things. Maybe he will learn someday. :-) Steve Culton Fell out of favor with who? Steve, there are those who tout the next latest & greatest & can't see it may be already right under their nose! No one likes to be behind the big truck, but it's better than being under it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Castafly Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 As far as I know..... Show me any fish that knows the difference between how old the material is? How long the fly pattern has been around? Nothing flies by me without a hook! If my fly is down, That's a good thing. Public Access.....It's a shore thing. My daily requirement of "Vitamin Sea". Capt. Ray Stachelek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baldwin Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Flatwing Deceivers and Bunny Flies are two of my favorites. Bunny Fly= Clouser eyes, crosscut rabbit strip palmer-wound for body, saddle hackle tail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbey Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 I still fish primarily three flies - deceivers, clousers and snake flies. They cover nearly all conditions and all depths; snakes = shallow, deceivers = mid depth, clousers = deep. Don't get me wrong. I love the more modern patterns, and dang if you guys here don't post some ridiculously amazing flies here on SOL. It's just the older I get the older school I get Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisherman Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Alan, I have been meaning to tie an old-school wet fly for years -- and just never got around to it -- called "Gilbey's Fancy." When I do, I'll post it here. :-) Steve Culton "We fish for pleasure; I for Mine, you for yours."-- James Leisenring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbey Posted December 1, 2014 Report Share Posted December 1, 2014 Back in my trout bum days my friends used to laugh at me for swinging wet flies fishing big western rivers for trout. "Hey Alan, did you dress that horse hair line first?" "Hey Alan, how's that gut leader material working for you?" But they were all quick to raid my fly boxes when I hooked up I will wait patiently for your creation Steve . Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fisherman Posted December 2, 2014 Report Share Posted December 2, 2014 I re-read my post, and to eliminate any confusion, it is not a fly of creation, but rather it is an old school English soft-hackle pattern that has been around for at least a hundred years. I botched the name, too -- it's called "Gilbey's Upright." From the recipe it looks like it could represent any number of mayflies, depending on the size hook you use. I will get to it some day. :-) Steve Culton "We fish for pleasure; I for Mine, you for yours."-- James Leisenring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonefish Posted December 5, 2014 Report Share Posted December 5, 2014 Here is a old classic from the west coast. Lambuth's Candlefish pattern originally tied by Letcher Lambuth in Seattle in 1936. Super simple but still very effective for salmon and searun cutthroat today. I'm partial to clousers as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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