albacized Posted November 22, 2014 Report Share Posted November 22, 2014 ...A reporter actually had the audacity to ask Stanton if he was embarrassed to be making nearly $70K a day over the course of his contract...Is this part of the lefty movement towards money redistribution? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilson615 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I dont think that its responsible for these teams to sign players for this much money... at some point it will cause a team to go bankrupt and we all see who bails them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ovenrat Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 ...A reporter actually had the audacity to ask Stanton if he was embarrassed to be making nearly $70K a day over the course of his contract...Is this part of the lefty movement towards money redistribution? If it isn't it should be and I lean so far Right I've pitched a tent on the tip of the N Jetty at BI .....pro sports contracts are obnoxious, ticket prices too ..... homeless, jobless Veterans are sleeping on the streets and guys who can hit a baseball, throw a football or shoot hoops are living like what they are - millionaires..... I don't understand JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 ...A reporter actually had the audacity to ask Stanton if he was embarrassed to be making nearly $70K a day over the course of his contract...Is this part of the lefty movement towards money redistribution? If it isn't it should be and I lean so far Right I've pitched a tent on the tip of the N Jetty at BI .....pro sports contracts are obnoxious, ticket prices too ..... homeless, jobless Veterans are sleeping on the streets and guys who can hit a baseball, throw a football or shoot hoops are living like what they are - millionaires..... I don't understand JMHO I don't begrudge any of them whatever they can negotiate. I don't spend a dime on sports. I watch football on TV, have never bought an item with a sports emblem on it. Other people spend a lot of money on sports and consider the entertainment worthwhile for them. As far as I'm concerned, it's between the sports fans and the sports teams. All the money comes from the fans and if fans are willing to pay the price, then who am I to say they're wrong. It's their money and their entertainment and if they want to dig deep into their pockets to enrich people based on their ability to throw or run or hit a ball with a piece of wood.... it's a free country and that's their prerogative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 If a guy can work a deal like GS, more power to him. If a team is willing to pay someone that much, when they didn't really have to, that tells me he could have gotten more if he waited. These teams are awash in TV money. Want to end the power of money, don't fall for advertising, or patronize companies that pay for ads on TV. Don't complain about the power of corporations while using their stuff that you bought. Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twilson615 Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 It's reached the point for me that I've stopped going to the games. These athletes deserve alot of money for what they do but I won't contribute to the wasteful spending. I think this performance enhancing drug scandal has shaped my view on all sports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Interesting that nobody has a word to say about the huge amounts of money actors & popstars make; but when an athlete gets it it's a huge deal. Perhaps because we all played sports? I don''t see the difference. Many of us were in school plays or bands or what have you. There's no difference from where I sit... The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Interesting that nobody has a word to say about the huge amounts of money actors & popstars make; but when an athlete gets it it's a huge deal. Perhaps because we all played sports? I don''t see the difference. Many of us were in school plays or bands or what have you. There's no difference from where I sit... I don't care how much pop stars, movie stars, TV stars, sports stars or CEO's make. Whatever they negotiate works for me. Funny that most libs seem to only have a problem with people who AREN'T in sports or entertainment getting rich off their work. I never did understand that. A CEO gets a multi-million dollar bonus and libs act like it's THEIR money that the CEO is getting. A baseball player signs a contract for many millions a year and not a peep out of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterMan Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have ZERO problem with CEO pay. Never have, never will. <p><p></p></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have ZERO problem with CEO pay. Never have, never will. One of the things I actually like about you is that you don't tow the liberal line on EVERYTHING. Most do no matter how stupid the line may be and the class envy nonsense is damned stupid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarterMan Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have NO class envy. I don't believe in things like fate and destiny. Instead, I believe we are all where we are because of our previous actions, well, at least to the extent that we are mentally and physically capable of pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps. Being in control of your own lot in life squares nicely with me being an atheist <p><p></p></p> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichum Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I don't care how much pop stars, movie stars, TV stars, sports stars or CEO's make. Whatever they negotiate works for me. Funny that most libs seem to only have a problem with people who AREN'T in sports or entertainment getting rich off their work. I never did understand that. A CEO gets a multi-million dollar bonus and libs act like it's THEIR money that the CEO is getting. A baseball player signs a contract for many millions a year and not a peep out of them. Suppose: Bill Green, a CEO at the helm of a publicly-traded firm. Bill retires from that firm after 10 years on the job. During his 10-year tenure, Bill and his management team increase shareholder value threefold. The firm had 1 million stockholders when Green came aboard and when he retired. When Bill started with the firm, each shareholder's position was worth $10K that increased to $30K when Bill retired 10 years later. When Bill Green retires the firm pays him a lump sum of $400 million which is only $400 per stockholder. By any measure, could any rational stockholder claim that Bill Green's retirement compensation is excessive? "Who is John Galt?" Who? You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I have NO class envy. I don't believe in things like fate and destiny. Instead, I believe we are all where we are because of our previous actions, well, at least to the extent that we are mentally and physically capable of pulling ourselves up by our bootstraps. Being in control of your own lot in life squares nicely with me being an atheist It does square nicely with either atheism or agnosticism..... and yet there are hordes of liberal atheists that want to pretend our own choices and actions are powerless against some great grand conspiracy to keep the working man blind and helpless. They're a bunch of nucking futcases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Williams Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 I don't care how much pop stars, movie stars, TV stars, sports stars or CEO's make. Whatever they negotiate works for me. Funny that most libs seem to only have a problem with people who AREN'T in sports or entertainment getting rich off their work. I never did understand that. A CEO gets a multi-million dollar bonus and libs act like it's THEIR money that the CEO is getting. A baseball player signs a contract for many millions a year and not a peep out of them. Suppose: Bill Green, a CEO at the helm of a publicly-traded firm. Bill retires from that firm after 10 years on the job. During his 10-year tenure, Bill and his management team increase shareholder value threefold. The firm had 1 million stockholders when Green came aboard and when he retired. When Bill started with the firm, each shareholder's position was worth $10K that increased to $30K when Bill retired 10 years later. When Bill Green retires the firm pays him a lump sum of $400 million which is only $400 per stockholder. By any measure, could any rational stockholder claim that Bill Green's retirement compensation is excessive? Not rational ones. But then again, who said the people screaming about CEO pay are rational shareholders. None are rational and not many are shareholders. They're mostly just irrational losers trying to find justification for their class envy issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichum Posted November 23, 2014 Report Share Posted November 23, 2014 Not rational ones. But then again, who said the people screaming about CEO pay are rational shareholders. None are rational and not many are shareholders. They're mostly just irrational losers trying to find justification for their class envy issues. Right. I omitted the post I was responding to. Here's the context: 6/4/11 HardyG: I ain't no lefty, and I desperately want to see a redistribution of wealth. 1% of America's population controls 24% of its wealth. This is untenable. During the Eisenhower administration (remember, Ike was a Leftist Commie Pinko Tax and Spend Liberal rolleyes.gif), the top tax rate was 90%. There weren't all that many people getting rich, but there weren't all that many people getting poor either. It was the tempered steel of the American middle class that made us a great and strong nation, and that will make us a great nation once again. America needs rich people like fish need bicycles. I have no issue with with people who create real value and have and higher standard of living than "9-5" workers (Bill Gates, Meg Whitman, Steve Jobs, Mark Zuckerberg). I have a serious problem when wealth is accumlated by wall street fiends (Howie Hubler, Lloyd Blanfiend, Pr!ck Fuld) and outrageously overpaid CEOs (Phillipe Dauman, Ray Irani, Larry Ellison, Bill Weldon). Those "humans" ain't worth the corn in my scat. 6/4/11 lichum: How do you define: "people who create real value," "higher standard of living than "9-5" workers," "wall street fiends,'" and "outrageously overpaid CEOs" ? Suppose: Bill Green, a CEO at the helm of a publicly-traded firm......................... "Who is John Galt?" Who? You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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