mark d Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I was looking at the squall levelwind and the specs said the main gear was brass. in the video the guy says its bronze. it caught my eye because I thought brass was too soft for this application but maybe I am wrong. soooo which is it ? which is it on my old beloved penns ? thks "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edfrompa Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Pure brass is rarely used in machine application where friction is involved-bushings,gears, etc. Depending on the service, varying degrees of alloy are used. "Certain" usually means being dead wrong- at the top of your lungs. Jeff Cooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Quote:Originally Posted by edfrompa Pure brass is rarely used in machine application where friction is involved-bushings,gears, etc. Depending on the service, varying degrees of alloy are used. so the gears are brass alloy you think ? not bronze ? "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billybob Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 No such thing as pure brass or pure bronze, both are copper alloys. Brass is copper/zinc and bronze is copper/tin. billthe5th 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunanorth Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 I was looking at the squall levelwind and the specs said the main gear was brass. in the video the guy says its bronze. it caught my eye because I thought brass was too soft for this application but maybe I am wrong. soooo which is it ? which is it on my old beloved penns ? thks Checked both print catalogue and PENN website, both say "marine grade bronze alloy" main gear. Where did you see brass? http://www.pennfishing.com/PENN%C2%AE-Squall%C2%AE-Star-Drag/1285662,default,pd.html#start=4 Penn Pro Staffer"The best kind of fish in the world is the one on the end of a kid's line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Quote:Originally Posted by Tunanorth Checked both print catalogue and PENN website, both say "marine grade bronze alloy" main gear. Where did you see brass?http://www.pennfishing.com/PENN%C2%AE-Squall%C2%AE-Star-Drag/1285662,default,pd.html#start=4 to the right on this page at the top there was an advertisement for the squall level wind. (at the moment it is showing squall 2 spd). I clicked on that and went to an official penn site with the info on that reel. the specs said brass main gear and stainless pinion which seemed strange to me. I then clicked on the video and the guy that does all of their videos said it was bronze. before answering you I googled it and after a couple of tries found the same sight and it said the same thing... brass. I think it has to be a misprint. would be interesting to hear what tony has to say "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunanorth Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 to the right on this page at the top there was an advertisement for the squall level wind. (at the moment it is showing squall 2 spd). I clicked on that and went to an official penn site with the info on that reel. the specs said brass main gear and stainless pinion which seemed strange to me. I then clicked on the video and the guy that does all of their videos said it was bronze. before answering you I googled it and after a couple of tries found the same sight and it said the same thing... brass. I think it has to be a misprint. would be interesting to hear what tony has to say Can't find it, can you give more specifics, like Google search words you used? Penn Pro Staffer"The best kind of fish in the world is the one on the end of a kid's line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 Quote:Originally Posted by Tunanorth Can't find it, can you give more specifics, like Google search words you used? ok looking now "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted August 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 type....penn squall levelwind reel. on the page that comes up the second item (at least for me) was Penn R Squall R LevelWind | Penn...click on that. it puts you on the official penn page for the reel. specs say brass. to the left of the specs there is a video option. if you click that you get the penn guy who says its bronze "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunanorth Posted August 18, 2014 Report Share Posted August 18, 2014 type....penn squall levelwind reel. on the page that comes up the second item (at least for me) was Penn R Squall R LevelWind | Penn...click on that. it puts you on the official penn page for the reel. specs say brass. to the left of the specs there is a video option. if you click that you get the penn guy who says its bronze OK found it. Looks to be a "working page" or something like that left over from when they were setting up the new PENN website. The link I included in my message above is the "official" PENN website. Interesting, one of the oddities of Google, I suppose, but definitely something for the IT crew to delete. Penn Pro Staffer"The best kind of fish in the world is the one on the end of a kid's line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 Quote:Originally Posted by Tunanorth OK found it. Looks to be a "working page" or something like that left over from when they were setting up the new PENN website. The link I included in my message above is the "official" PENN website. Interesting, one of the oddities of Google, I suppose, but definitely something for the IT crew to delete. I checked out the link you left. I think its the same site but it was for the regular squall and it says bronze alloy main gear like you said. the squall level line which looks like the same site, black page etc it says brass main gear which has got to be a mistake tony what say you ?......enquiring minds need to know "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted August 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I said earlier that I clicked on an advertisement on this site that got me to the squall levelwind page but I think maybe that's not correct. probably googled it the first time also "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunanorth Posted August 19, 2014 Report Share Posted August 19, 2014 I checked out the link you left. I think its the same site but it was for the regular squall and it says bronze alloy main gear like you said. the squall level line which looks like the same site, black page etc it says brass main gear which has got to be a mistake tony what say you ?......enquiring minds need to know Yup, you are correct, I had thought I clicked on the LW's. The IT team is working on it. Penn Pro Staffer"The best kind of fish in the world is the one on the end of a kid's line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark d Posted August 20, 2014 Author Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 well thk heavens for that. I would not want to lose another nights sleep "what good are tractors without violins" ? jose figueres Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PENN Fishing Posted August 20, 2014 Report Share Posted August 20, 2014 I checked out the link you left. I think its the same site but it was for the regular squall and it says bronze alloy main gear like you said. the squall level line which looks like the same site, black page etc it says brass main gear which has got to be a mistake tony what say you ?......enquiring minds need to know Mark, Apologize for the late response, Squall LW has a bronze main gear. Sorry for any confusion. tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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