nosajwp Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I like loop to loop connections between a fly line and leader...for those times when the fly line doesn't come with a pre-made loop, what would be the best way to add a loop...knot, braided loops, or something else? Also, as much as I like the loop connections between fly line and leader, I've often wondered how well it would work if you connected the tippet to your leader with a loop. Anyone try this with good results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Africaster Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Braided loop + a drop of superglue on end/start, then covered by tube and heat shrunk. No issues yet. I've only used this method connecting backing to fly line on my #3 and that's only because I don't have any spare spools for it, haven't been pulled to backing on it yet, but don't foresee any issues when it does happen. Any society that charges it's own children for knowledge, is doomed to fail. Whilst intelligence is not affected by geography, it is influenced by education, opportunity and drive. Now is the time to change our attitude towards blues, next year may well be too late (Somebody listened ) Member of the Yellow Eyed Devils May you never have to fish to live, rather live to fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JrzFlyGuy Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I use a double nail knot to make the loop in the flyline. Then I use a 3-4' piece of 40# with loops at each end and finally, loop to loop 3' of 20# tippet to the butt section of 40# So I use loops everywhere! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt.Castafly Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Perfect loop works for me. Loop to loop would work connecting leader to tippet but not a common practice. Take into consideration the refraction of sunlight of a larger knot close to the fly. At least in saltwater, I like a taper leader rather than a series of knots. The leaders don't fowl as much with seaweed. Who knows... maybe a larger knot on your leader could provoke a bluefish strike at that point. Nothing flies by me without a hook! If my fly is down, That's a good thing. Public Access.....It's a shore thing. My daily requirement of "Vitamin Sea". Capt. Ray Stachelek Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HL Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I use a whipped loop using fine mono fly tying thread covered with Pliobond. May times I will cut off the larger than needed factory weld and whip a smaller, more streamlined loop. I used to use loop to loop with tippet but stopped that in favor of a double surgeons knot. The loop to loop there used to hang-up and cause snarls Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehaul2 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Non-slip loop on leader butt. Yes, loop to loop works fine for tippet. Even with a tapered leader, you will have to add tippet at some point. Carry some pre-looped tippets and your good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Africaster Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Non-slip loop on leader butt. Yes, loop to loop works fine for tippet. Even with a tapered leader, you will have to add tippet at some point. Carry some pre-looped tippets and your good to go. HA! I have a bagful of tapered leaders that are now half their original length and too thick to realistically use, now they'll get a new lease on life - Thanks! Any society that charges it's own children for knowledge, is doomed to fail. Whilst intelligence is not affected by geography, it is influenced by education, opportunity and drive. Now is the time to change our attitude towards blues, next year may well be too late (Somebody listened ) Member of the Yellow Eyed Devils May you never have to fish to live, rather live to fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
surfrat59 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I nail knot a small loop of 50lb mono to the end of most fly lines, and I loop to loop my tippets unless albie fishing, then I tie direct.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nosajwp Posted July 16, 2014 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I may have to try adding a loop to my tapered leaders, so that I can swap out tippets without having to shorten the leader length over time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chr1s Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 I've used the packaged braided loops on fly lines with no end loop, but now make my own loops with braided mono. I use a Perfection Loop on my homegrown leaders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doublehaul2 Posted July 16, 2014 Report Share Posted July 16, 2014 Quote:Originally Posted by Africaster HA! I have a bagful of tapered leaders that are now half their original length and too thick to realistically use, now they'll get a new lease on life - Thanks! Yup. you can also blood knot a slightly smaller diameter mono to the butt section and make your leader as long or short as you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmwindber Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 I use double hitch hand made braided loops on all my fly lines except my clear intermediate which are to slick. I use a nail knot at the end to secure it to the fly line .never had one fail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crunch Posted July 17, 2014 Report Share Posted July 17, 2014 This kind of core loop does have the least stuck to rod guides when fish pulls line out.Although the loop becomes soft no "hinging" exists to my eye. However I haven't seen slow motion casting videos of these kind of loops but for me there is no performance difference between different kind of loops.I have also tied the core loop using bobbin with synthetic fly tying thread so that thread goes thru a layer of soft Aquasure while wrapping. Core loops have never failed at leader end but one shooting head rear loop which had a season of use failed when head got stuck to rocks and I did pull very hard.Esa "Game fish are too valuable to be caught only once" 1939 Lee Wulff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slip n slide Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Originally Posted by crunch This kind of core loop does have the least stuck to rod guides when fish pulls line out.Although the loop becomes soft no "hinging" exists to my eye. However I haven't seen slow motion casting videos of these kind of loops but for me there is no performance difference between different kind of loops.I have also tied the core loop using bobbin with synthetic fly tying thread so that thread goes thru a layer of soft Aquasure while wrapping. Core loops have never failed at leader end but one shooting head rear loop which had a season of use failed when head got stuck to rocks and I did pull very hard.Esa 1 cm holding the whole thing together? Sounds sketchy.And in step 4 what does "Bob's your Auntie" mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Africaster Posted July 19, 2014 Report Share Posted July 19, 2014 Hahaha ........., "Bob's your Auntie" basically means "finished" / "done" / "voila" Any society that charges it's own children for knowledge, is doomed to fail. Whilst intelligence is not affected by geography, it is influenced by education, opportunity and drive. Now is the time to change our attitude towards blues, next year may well be too late (Somebody listened ) Member of the Yellow Eyed Devils May you never have to fish to live, rather live to fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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