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We have to get these folks enrolled to make ObamaCare solvent.

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Admits "prosecutorial discretion" on immigration has already stretched his "administrative capacity very far."

Daniel Halper

March 6, 2014 12:34 PM

 

In a joint town hall with Telemundo and Univision, President Obama made a pledge that his administration will not use Obamacare sign up data to deport illegal aliens:

"Will we hear from you a pledge, a personal promise, that the information provided in the registration process will not be used for deportation purposes in this country?"

"Absolutely," Obama said, putting his hand down for emphasis.

"It's true that the undocumented are not eligible [for Obamacare], that's how the law was written, but if you are a U.S. citizen or you have a legal presence in this country, you are eligible," he said. "And none of the information that is provided in order for you to obtain health insurance is in any way transferred to immigration services. So that's something we've been very clear about. If you live in a mixed status family, then the son who could potentially be eligible for the children's health insurance program or some other mechanism to get health insurance, he needs to be signed up. And the mother should not be fearful that in any way that's going to affect -- of course I understand the fear."

Obama blamed Congress for deportations. And he said he has already stretched his "administrative capacity very far" by taking immigration actions using "prosecutorial discretion," but that he was "very confident that was the right thing to do."

The president finished answering this question by saying, "So, for everybody out there who's in a mixed family, there is no sharing of the data from the health care plan in to immigration services. You should feel confident that if somebody in your family is eligible, you should sign them up."

The questions were asked of Obama in Spanish and translated by an onsite translator.

 

post #2 of 53
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Originally Posted by bat guano View Post

We have to get these folks enrolled to make ObamaCare solvent.



Hope/Change/Dreamers Living The Dream.




Admits "prosecutorial discretion" on immigration has already stretched his "administrative capacity very far."



Daniel Halper



March 6, 2014 12:34 PM


In a joint town hall with Telemundo and Univision, President Obama made a pledge that his administration will not use Obamacare sign up data to deport illegal aliens:
"Will we hear from you a pledge, a personal promise, that the information provided in the registration process will not be used for deportation purposes in this country?"
"Absolutely," Obama said, putting his hand down for emphasis.
"It's true that the undocumented are not eligible [for Obamacare], that's how the law was written, but if you are a U.S. citizen or you have a legal presence in this country, you are eligible," he said. "And none of the information that is provided in order for you to obtain health insurance is in any way transferred to immigration services. So that's something we've been very clear about. If you live in a mixed status family, then the son who could potentially be eligible for the children's health insurance program or some other mechanism to get health insurance, he needs to be signed up. And the mother should not be fearful that in any way that's going to affect -- of course I understand the fear."
Obama blamed Congress for deportations. And he said he has already stretched his "administrative capacity very far" by taking immigration actions using "prosecutorial discretion," but that he was "very confident that was the right thing to do."
The president finished answering this question by saying, "So, for everybody out there who's in a mixed family, there is no sharing of the data from the health care plan in to immigration services. You should feel confident that if somebody in your family is eligible, you should sign them up."
The questions were asked of Obama in Spanish and translated by an onsite translator.

This man is publicly encouraging and condoning illegal activity.
post #3 of 53
Our President said that the law can't be enforced on 11,000,000 people.
How many tax filers are there?
Does that mean other laws, besides immigration laws can be flouted?
Which ones?
Is there a Law Flouting Due to Sheer Numbers for Dummies handbook?
post #4 of 53
They are already signing up illegals for Obamacare. they need th enrollment numbers so badly and the systems are so effed up, they don't care.
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Obamacare for Illegals
It’s “accidental” (of course), but how many will slip in?
By Michelle Malkin

You knew it was coming. I knew it was coming. When government expands entitlements, illegal aliens always end up with a piece of the pie. Obamacare promoters relented to GOP pressure to include an illegal-alien ban on eligibility and vowed endlessly that no benefits would go to the “undocumented.” But denial isn’t just a river in Egypt. It’s the Obama way.

In Oregon this week, officials confessed that nearly 4,000 illegal immigrants had been “accidentally” steered from the state’s low-income Medicaid program and instead were enrolled in Obamacare in violation of the law. Oopsie. The Oregonian newspaper’s Nick Budnick reported that the health bureaucrats “discovered the problem several weeks ago and are correcting it.” Get in line. The beleaguered Cover Oregon health insurance exchange has been riddled with ongoing problems, errors, and glitches since last October that have yet to be fixed.

Take note: This wasn’t a one-time computer meltdown. Because Oregon’s health insurance exchange website has been offline and its software architects under investigation for possible fraud, the Oregon Obamacare drones have been processing each and every application manually. That means nearly 4,000 illegal-alien applications with “inaccurate” data somehow passed through government hands and somehow ended up getting routed through as new enrollees with Obamacare-approved full-service health care.

How many Obamacare services did these nearly 4,000 illegal aliens avail themselves of, and at what cost?

Does anyone believe the same incompetent boobs who enrolled them will be able to track down the nearly 4,000 illegal-alien beneficiaries, “correct” the “errors,” and ensure that it doesn’t happen again?

What a slap in the face to the millions of law-abiding Americans who have lost their health-care coverage and work hours thanks to Democratic-sponsored federal health-care regulatory burdens and mandate costs.

One Oregon Obamacare manager defended the unlawful illegal-alien enrollment by explaining: “We were just getting people into the services.” And there’s the rub. The imperative of these government social engineers is to herd as many “clients” into taxpayer-subsidized programs as possible. Just last week, Obama’s Homeland Security secretary Jeh Johnson publicized an open letter to families with illegal-alien relatives promising that no one would be deported for seeking Obamacare services.

“No one in America who is eligible should be afraid to apply for health coverage because they have a family with mixed status,” Johnson assured. And in another sign of how the White House is still planning for mass illegal-alien amnesty, Johnson also made clear: “Enrolling in health coverage . . . will not prevent your loved ones who are undocumented from getting a green card in the future or who do not yet have a green card at risk.”

As always, California Democrats are at the forefront of busting open Obamacare for the illegal-alien population. Earlier this month, Democratic state senator Ricardo Lara introduced a bill to extend health benefits and a special online marketplace to 1 million illegals under an Obamacare-style program subsidized by state taxpayer dollars.

In case you forgot, President Obama had already paved the path for illegal-alien Obamacare when he signed the massive expansion of the State Children’s Health Insurance Program (S-CHIP) in 2009. As I’ve reported previously, the law loosened eligibility requirements for legal immigrants and their children by watering down document and evidentiary standards — making it easy for individuals to use fake Social Security cards to apply for benefits with little to no chance of getting caught. In addition, Obama’s S-CHIP expansion revoked Medicaid-application time limits that were part of the 1996 welfare-reform law.

Open-borders activists saw those provisions as first steps toward universal health coverage for illegals. They see America as the medical welcome mat to the world. Over the past year, they’ve ratcheted up public protests demanding free organ transplants for illegal-alien patients. In Chicago last fall, they marched on a hospital with caskets and posters demanding scarce organs. One illegal alien blasted authorities for putting “paper over our lives.” In California, illegal-alien transplant patients count on federal incompetence and lax enforcement to abet them, because if they notify the state that DHS “is aware of their presence and does not plan to deport them,” they are eligible for full-blown Medi-Cal coverage, according to the state.

Now, Obamacare peddlers from Oregon to New York and all points in between are rushing to sign up new “customers” in advance of the March 31 open-enrollment deadline. How many more thousands of illegal aliens will be roped into the system? Remember: In the lexicon of the Left, “accidental” is just another word for inevitable entitlement creep.
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Originally Posted by dena View Post

Our President said that the law can't be enforced on 11,000,000 people.
How many tax filers are there?
Does that mean other laws, besides immigration laws can be flouted?
Which ones?
Is there a Law Flouting Due to Sheer Numbers for Dummies handbook?


Sneak across the border, drop a pup, instant unearned entitlements...
post #6 of 53
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Originally Posted by dreamcaster View Post

Sneak across the border, drop a pup, instant unearned entitlements...

That sounds like an Obama biography
post #7 of 53
"We have to get these folks enrolled to make ObamaCare solvent."

^^^
Is this statement true or false?




If all of the "folks" (persons who violated immigration law when they entered the country) were enrolled in Obamacare, would their enrollment conduce to the solvency of Obamacare?

Many of these "folks" are poor; if enrolled in Obamacare would they be subsidized to an extent that they cost Obamacare more than they contribute to it?
Edited by lichum - 3/6/14 at 6:58pm
post #8 of 53
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Originally Posted by lichum View Post

"We have to get these folks enrolled to make ObamaCare solvent."

^^^
Is this statement true or false?




If all of the "folks" (persons who violated immigration law when they entered the country) were enrolled in Obamacare, would their enrollment conduce to the solvency of Obamacare?

Many of these "folks" are poor; if enrolled in Obamacare would they be subsidized to an extent that they cost Obamacare more than they contribute to it?

Medicaid.
post #9 of 53
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Originally Posted by lichum View Post
 
"We have to get these folks enrolled to make ObamaCare solvent."

^^^
Is this statement true or false?




If all of the "folks" (persons who violated immigration law when they entered the country) were enrolled in Obamacare, would their enrollment conduce to the solvency of Obamacare?

Many of these "folks" are poor; if enrolled in Obamacare would they be subsidized to an extent that they cost Obamacare more than they contribute to it?

Just to be very clear,those were my words,I was being sarcastic.

You have to wonder what the end goal is when Obama is encouraging this population to sign up.

post #10 of 53
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Originally Posted by bat guano View Post

Just to be very clear,those were my words,I was being sarcastic.
You have to wonder what the end goal is when Obama is encouraging this population to sign up.

I thought they were from a heading of another piece on Halper's piece.
post #11 of 53
It just hit me.

The President is going about this the wrong way.

At the end of the day he's really just trying to sell health insurance, and he's failing miserably.

He should change his direction, and threaten to ban health insurance, like he's tried to "reform" firearm laws.

He's helped sell a shitton of guns and ammo recently.

Can you imagine how much health insurance he'd sell if the threatened to eliminated it?

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post #12 of 53
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Originally Posted by dena View Post

Our President said that the law can't be enforced on 11,000,000 people.
How many tax filers are there?
Does that mean other laws, besides immigration laws can be flouted?
Which ones?
Is there a Law Flouting Due to Sheer Numbers for Dummies handbook?
The President can only due so much in deporting illegals due to the budget the do nothing congress has passed..Congress can't do anything good for America because it would be good for Obama.The republicans can 't have that no matter what the cost.
post #13 of 53
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Originally Posted by captdavemiami View Post


The President can only due so much in deporting illegals due to the budget the do nothing congress has passed..Congress can't do anything good for America because it would be good for Obama.The republicans can 't have that no matter what the cost.


If you could have your way, what would you like to see Congress "do"?

post #14 of 53
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Originally Posted by captdavemiami View Post

The President can only due so much in deporting illegals due to the budget the do nothing congress has passed..Congress can't do anything good for America because it would be good for Obama.The republicans can 't have that no matter what the cost.

As you sow so shall ye reap.

He divided instead of leading and is now reaping what he sowed.
post #15 of 53
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Originally Posted by Kings over Queens View Post

It just hit me.

The President is going about this the wrong way.

At the end of the day he's really just trying to sell health insurance, and he's failing miserably.

He should change his direction, and threaten to ban health insurance, like he's tried to "reform" firearm laws.

He's helped sell a shitton of guns and ammo recently.

Can you imagine how much health insurance he'd sell if the threatened to eliminated it?

cwm27.gif

It wouldn't make much of a difference as gun nuts are unique in how much they wet the bed.
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