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ABU GARCIA Ambassadeur 5500C Spool Tangle

post #1 of 25
Thread Starter 

I'm new to baitcasters and bought a ABU GARCIA Ambassadeur 5500C. My grandfater use to have one and loved it. I loaded it with 10lb line and when I cast it the line tagles on the spool. Maybe I'm doing something wrong? Any help would be appreciated.

 

Thanks,

Mark  

post #2 of 25
Consider magging the reel. I magged mine and it worked wonders. Its also is an easy fix and costs less than $5.00. Plenty of info how to mag reel on this site.
Jerry
post #3 of 25
Might sound obvious, but when you're learning, keep your thumb on the spool to act as a brake.
Gradually ease off with the thumb as you get more practice.
Also, what weight are you trying to cast? Too light a weight will cause backlashes much easier, with 10lb line try about 1oz to start with until you get the hang of it.
It just takes a bit of practice but it's worth the effort.
post #4 of 25

I agree with keeping the thumb on the spool. Just ever so lightly. You can feel the instant the line loosens on the spool and stop it, or lift the rod to pull the slack out of the spool and slow it with your thumb.

You may want to check the tension of the spool, the knob next to the handle base. If it is too loose it very easy to back lash.

 

I set mine by holding the rod straight out from me and turning the knob just enough to slow the fall of the weight (1/2 oz) and not allow the spool to start out running the line.

 

Then tweak it in tiny increments on the knob, til it cast like I like it.

post #5 of 25
Hi. Persuant to the informative posts above: Abu 55's are not the greatest with fleaweight lures. 1500's, and 2500's are best for the light stuff. 55's are stellar from, say, 1/2 ounce on up to 2 ounces.

The standard way to set the reel up, to minimize backlashes would be thus: Take the cast control knob and tighten all the way tight. Place reel in cast mode, hold the rod on a 45° and slooooowly loosen the cast control knob so that the weight or lure falls to ground, with the spool totally stalling.

Adjust cast cap so the lure falls the quickest, with the spool not continuing to turn once the weight hits ground. This setting will not get you the longest cast, but it will minimize "professional over-runs".

Once you get into using conventional type reels, chances are you will favour them over spin reels.

Oh yeah: Hopefully you have filled the spool to within about 3/32" - 1/16" from the lip, no more, best not less. Any more line than that, if you ever have a problem with the pawl, or line carriage causing the line to pile up on one side of the spool, you will have a ~time~ attempting to get the spool out of the frame, plus: a full spool casts best. Cheers, KD
Edited by Ken D - 4/30/13 at 2:03pm
post #6 of 25
Thread Starter 

"Magging the reel" I found a tutorial online but that seems to be a lot of work. Thanks for the reply.
 

post #7 of 25
Thread Starter 

I checked the tension and added a larger weight. I will give that a go. I keep my thumb on the spool but I'm putting to much or not enough pressure on the spool. It jerks to a hault or kinks up.  Thanks again for all the suggestions.

post #8 of 25
I'll see if I can find the John Softly article on adding magnetics to a 4-5-6 reel, by Rod Bolton.

I found it, but I cannot post it to the SOL.
(Tims rules on links)

I needed to use the internet's wayback machine.
For those unfamiliar with the wayback machine, just use that as a search term wherever you search, for its link. I went back to year 2004, for the article.

If you like, skid on over to Mike's Reel Repair's forum, and look in the off-topic forum for the "file-room" thread. I put the link there.
Edited by Ken D - 4/30/13 at 6:07pm
post #9 of 25
Now, if none of the above work, I would remove the small brake cap under the star drag, and see if there are any copper shims in it.If not, maybe the previous owner opened it and didn't realize he dropped them.I'd purchase and install 2 to start with and do as mentioned above to control your cast.
post #10 of 25

Something I don't see a lot of fishermen mention when talking about casting bait casters is the actual casting technique with the rod. What I have found while teaching my son to cast a bait caster is that since he was used to using spinning gear, and would sort of flick the rod quickly when he casted, he had trouble with the bait caster initially. He had much better success by using a longer casting motion, with a more sweeping motion with the rod. Once I got him to slow his wrist and arm motion down a bit, and combine that with some control with his thumb, his back lash troubles ceased to almost nil. It takes a bit of practice. But, the casting motion of your arm through the rod makes a big difference in whether you backlash or not. 

post #11 of 25

When does the spool run on? When your lure hits the water? Ya gotta stop the spool with your thumb when the plug hits the drink!smile.gif

post #12 of 25
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Originally Posted by jimmy z View Post

When does the spool run on? When your lure hits the water? Ya gotta stop the spool with your thumb when the plug hits the drink!smile.gif

 

+1

 

 

Being new to the reel, it's also possible that the op has the tension knob set too loose against the spool shaft or it was like that when he got it...

 

Learning to cast a baitcaster is a little tricky, and not without a few birds nest. I still get the beginning of one, now and then.

post #13 of 25
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Originally Posted by Mariner1 View Post

 

+1

 

 

Being new to the reel, it's also possible that the op has the tension knob set too loose against the spool shaft or it was like that when he got it...

 

Learning to cast a baitcaster is a little tricky, and not without a few birds nest. I still get the beginning of one, now and then.

Yes, many just don't know how to set a conventional or a baitcasting reel from the get go! ; 


Edited by jimmy z - 8/11/13 at 6:40pm
post #14 of 25
I think if a guy pays his dues with a bait caster,he'll eventually fall in love with them.Besides that, I like the fact that you can never run out of ways to "hot rod" the reel.Just like to mention, that the only oil like substance that ever touches my bearings and worm gear is weapon shield.biggrin.gif
post #15 of 25
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Originally Posted by Rovingarcher View Post

I think if a guy pays his dues with a bait caster,he'll eventually fall in love with them.Besides that, I like the fact that you can never run out of ways to "hot rod" the reel.Just like to mention, that the only oil like substance that ever touches my bearings and worm gear is weapon shield.biggrin.gif

 

 

I picked up my first one, an abu 5000, 35 years ago and have never really wanted to fish with anything else. I've fished with a few spinning rigs that I could get a little more distance out of, but I just don't like them. I do love the Ambassadeurs.

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