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post #1 of 56
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Does anyone know of the 2013 NJ size and bag limits for summer flounder?
post #2 of 56
It's not set yet
post #3 of 56
Hoping for same regs. The fishery was very good this summer. 0 skunkings and constant action.
post #4 of 56
dont they decide in march or april?
post #5 of 56
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Originally Posted by carusoz View Post

Does anyone know of the 2013 NJ size and bag limits for summer flounder?

The 2013 regs won't be set until late march or April.

From what I heard our 2012 landings didn't look they were going to exceed our quota, which is good. No penalty to pay in 2013. But there's no guarantee the 2013 quota will be the same as 2012. Time will tell and more info will come out during the winter meetings.
post #6 of 56
This was taken from an e-mail I received on 12/18/12

December Council Meeting Summary

December 10-13, 2012

Baltimore, Maryland

Summer Flounder
Recreational Management Measures
The Council and Board recommended the use of conservation equivalency for the summer flounder fishery in 2013. This would allow individual states to develop recreational measures to achieve a state-specific harvest level to achieve the coastwide recreational harvest limit of 7.63 million pounds.
As a non-preferred alternative, the Council and Board adopted the following coastwide management measures:
• Two fish possession limit
• 18 inch minimum size
• Open season from May 1 through September 30, 2013.

As a precautionary default measure the Council and Board adopted the following management measurse:
• Two fish possession limit
• 20 inch TL minimum fish size
• Coastwide season from May 1 through September 30, 2013.
post #7 of 56
WEnt to web site and found the 2013 Recommendations, read it and weep.

2013 Staff Recommendation
Staff recommend a coastwide measure of 16.0 inch TL minimum size, 3 fish possession limit, and
coastwide season from May 1 to September 30, 2013 based on analyses from the constructed dynamics
equations developed by Dr. John Ward. A coastwide measure for both state and Federal waters would
reduce the complexity of the regulations (particularly in shared waters/bays). In addition, MRIP harvest
estimates are always progressively less precise at lower levels of stratification; therefore, the data would
be more precise when used at the coastwide level.
If conservation equivalency is instead selected (although not staff recommended), then a non-preferred
coastwide measure and a precautionary default measure must be identified. The non-preferred coastwide
measures would be comprised of an identical minimum fish size, possession limit, and season, for 2013,
to be implemented by all states and in federal waters. The precautionary default measures are defined as
the set of measures that would achieve at least the highest percent reduction for any state on a coastwide
basis. It is intended to be an unappealing measure for any state to implement. The Commission would
require adoption of the precautionary default measures by any state that either does not submit a summer
flounder management proposal to the Commission’s Summer Flounder Technical Committee, or that
submits measures that are determined not to achieve the required level of reduction for that state. Staff
recommends a non-preferred coastwide measure of 16.0 inch TL minimum size, 3 fish possession limit,
and coastwide season from May 1 to September 30, 2013. In addition, if conservation equivalency is
chosen, staff recommends default measures that include a 20.0 inch TL minimum size, 2 fish possession
limit, and coastwide season from May 1 to September 30, 2013. This default is likely to be more
restrictive than any measure an individual state will implement in 2013.
post #8 of 56
So I decipher that as either 3 at 16 or 2 at 20. However, I have a hard time deciphering government gibberish. headscratch.gif Please tell this old guy what the hell this breaks down to. Party boats will take a tremendous beating. mad.gif
post #9 of 56
Don't feel sorry for the party boats, they have been beating up the fish for years, how about different regs for surf and boat caught? It's almost impossible to take a 20" flounder from the surf, boat guys can catch that size at will.
post #10 of 56
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Originally Posted by Fishit 2 View Post

Don't feel sorry for the party boats, they have been beating up the fish for years, how about different regs for surf and boat caught? It's almost impossible to take a 20" flounder from the surf, boat guys can catch that size at will.

I had a few fish over 20" this summer....some nice ones at night too. Bananax had a very nice one in the surf on a yellow bucktail in 2011 at night, that he hasnt topped either. lol



There was a guy I watched many times this summer with a 5500 abu absolutely destroy the fluke this summer....Every morning he had about 3 for weeks lol.

They are so tasty. drool.gif
post #11 of 56
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Originally Posted by christopherr View Post

There was a guy I watched many times this summer with a 5500 abu absolutely destroy the fluke this summer....Every morning he had about 3 for weeks lol.
They are so tasty. drool.gif

That's shbeachbum smile.gif
post #12 of 56
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Originally Posted by j0k3r View Post

That's shbeachbum smile.gif

Is it? He looks different with sunglasses on. icon24.gif He caught a lot of big flatties this year....

ha
post #13 of 56
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Originally Posted by christopherr View Post


I had a few fish over 20" this summer....some nice ones at night too. Bananax had a very nice one in the surf on a yellow bucktail in 2011 at night, that he hasnt topped either. lol

There was a guy I watched many times this summer with a 5500 abu absolutely destroy the fluke this summer....Every morning he had about 3 for weeks lol.
They are so tasty. drool.gif

 

Do you know how big roughly that fluke was? Either he's a short guy or thats a doormat!

post #14 of 56
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Originally Posted by JettySlider View Post

Do you know how big roughly that fluke was? Either he's a short guy or thats a doormat!

It broke 26" and hes 6' or 6'1 lol. Sadly, his girl out fluked us over 5 times this summer.
post #15 of 56
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Originally Posted by Fishit 2 View Post

Don't feel sorry for the party boats, they have been beating up the fish for years, how about different regs for surf and boat caught? It's almost impossible to take a 20" flounder from the surf, boat guys can catch that size at will.
i had the best summer of surf fluking of my life in 2012. 52 keepers and 6 over 25". All from two different Jettys......nothing is impossible. the one on the end had a full 6" squid in its belly
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