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post #1 of 114
Thread Starter 

Do you guys use leaders when fishing for stripers, because i do and i have been having success, but i hear that they are leader shy so maybe i could have more success if i dont use a leader.

What do you guys think?

 

Thanks in advance

post #2 of 114

I always use a fluorocarbon leader... Never tried with out..

post #3 of 114
Using the appropriate size leader which when throwing light stuff should be no more than 40 pound for best action is better imo than tying your plug or what have you direct to your braid.

Many guys use leaders that are far too heavy for what their doing. I usually use either flouro or nylon in 30 pound and sometimes it's required to go down to 15 pound to get certain species of fish to bite.

Many guys will tell you to just use mono for a leader and they have a point and there is no doubt fish are caught all the time on it, but i like to use flouro just because i know there is zero negatives (besides cost) when fishing it .

I know flouro will not cost me a fish where i can't say the same for mono, anytime you can make your connection point more difficult to see is a plus. I like the piece of mind knowing that if that fish of a lifetime is right on top of your bait, your presentation is the best it can be and that means flouro and as light as you can get away with leader.

Big fish get big for a reason and thats avoiding anything that doesn't look less than perfect.

Here's a challenge, fish what you usually fish for half a year and then fish flouro and lighter leader for the other half, you will see a difference, no doubt in my mind.
post #4 of 114
I just use mono, 50 or 60 on my surf rod, 25 for light stuff, and 150 for bait if the blues are giving me issues.

I don't buy into the idea that you have to use fluoro, the biggest bass I ever caught was with two steel leaders when I was 11.
post #5 of 114
Bait rig I make and use.Leader shyness not a concern,with bait anyhow. 100# flouro,mono crimp sleeves,10/0 Gami Octupus and Spro barrel.Heavy flouro more for stiffness to prevent tangles and helicoptering than anything and gives a bit of protection against teef of ol' yelloweyes.

post #6 of 114
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Originally Posted by Kima View Post

I just use mono, 50 or 60 on my surf rod, 25 for light stuff, and 150 for bait if the blues are giving me issues.
I don't buy into the idea that you have to use fluoro, the biggest bass I ever caught was with two steel leaders when I was 11.






Of course you don't have to use flouro but it is highly probable at some point over the years that a possible fish of a lifetime got real close to striking but at the last minute turned away because it saw something that just wasn't right.

To a lot of guys they don't care and thats fine, but there are those that want to know that everytime they fished they didn't compromise and at the end of their days can honestly say "i gave it my best everytime out there" so if my lifetime fish didn't happen then thats OK.

Then you have the type that says " i may not have done the little bit extra to make sure i gave it my best, and it very well may have cost me from catching that lifetime fish, but it's good enough for me .

So, what is good enough for some may be far from whats good enough for others. Kind of like the Corporate world, there are those that strive for perfection and those that just try to get by , guess which one usually gets rewarded for their efforts.
post #7 of 114

I use 50lb flouro and 20lb braid.  Thinking of dropping down to 20-30lb range flouro.

post #8 of 114

I use 40lb or 60lb Hi Seas Quartto Mono Leader for my fish finding rigs and leaders.  I like the fact that its very hard for me see when underwater, hope its the same for the fish confused.gif, but it has worked very well for me so far.

post #9 of 114
People are going to fish with what their comfortable with and that's fine, i understand change is uncomfortable. All i was meaning to get across is at some point over the years re evaluate your approach and tackle and do a little experimenting . It can be really worth the effort but then again it might not, just don't rule it out.

People who are willing to step outside of what they have been comfortable with or what they have believed to be true for so long can really make things fun and enjoyable again and not just the same ol same ol.

If you decide you like what you have been doing over the years then go back . I think splitting a full year by comparing a half year of the norm and then trying something different for the second half of the year would open a lot of eyes. Just my opinion
post #10 of 114
Maybe I was doing something wrong. I tried 50lb flouro for half the season and then back to my 50lb big game mono for the other half. I noticed I caught more fish using mono over flouro. But next year I'm going to try to use flouro for the whole year and see what happens.
post #11 of 114
For the beach I use 30 lb fluoro. For jetty I use 50lb-60lb. I find that's enough to stop abrasion.
post #12 of 114
I use mono leader, 40 or 50 #, bass are not leader shy and the water is not clear in our surf.
post #13 of 114
Who thinks any lure actually look or imitate real baitfish? Not I. If you'll eat a chartreuse fly or bucktail, I don't think you're too picky smile.gif
post #14 of 114
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Originally Posted by hunt for blueessss View Post

Who thinks any lure actually look or imitate real baitfish? Not I. If you'll eat a chartreuse fly or bucktail, I don't think you're too picky smile.gif

The MC55, of course. nonono.gif
post #15 of 114
I strongly recommend some form of mono or fluorocarbon leader. I know the thickness and strength is subjective and also relative to where you fish. There are also advantages of using the fluorocarbon leader. Fluorocarbon leader is not the solution to catching more fish or bigger fish… (Skill and knowledge does). However, the invisible line are more abrasion resistant and it does wonders during those gin clear water conditions. Obviously, if the water is chocolate like.. You can use a black cable wire because the fish will rely solely on their other sense (smell).
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