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Benghazi was A PREVENTABLE TRAGEDY

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The mess in Benghazi could have been prevented. Politics not Budget constraints was the cause of the successful attack at the Consulate

PREVENTABLE TRAGEDY

Obama administration can’t spin its way out of blame for Benghazi

Editorial --- Columbus Dispatch 10/14/2012

Testimony in a congressional hearing Wednesday on the Sept. 11 outrage against the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi fueled a growing suspicion: President Barack Obama’s administration was more concerned about projecting the image of improving stability in Libya, to bolster his re-election chances, than it was about ensuring the security of Americans on the ground there.

The fact of a successful terrorist attack against the U.S. on the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks — a day, above all others, when security for American officials in volatile countries should be at its utmost — is demoralizing and infuriating.

After months of concern by diplomats in Libya about the country’s deteriorating security, Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three embassy employees were murdered by heavily armed and organized terrorists. The possibility the government could have prevented their deaths by responding to their pleas for greater security is devastating.

Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Charlene Lamb, who helps oversee diplomatic security, acknowledged in the hearing that she had told security officials at the U.S. Embassy in the capital city of Tripoli not to bother asking for more security help after the assignment of a supplemental security team ended in August.

Security officer Eric A. Nordstrom told Congress members he took Lamb’s refusal to mean “there was going to be too much political cost.”

In March and July, Nordstrom cabled his superiors in the State Department asking for more security at Benghazi, which had much less protection than the embassy in Tripoli. He got no reply.

His further comment at Wednesday’s hearing is damning: “The takeaway from that, for me and my staff: It was abundantly clear we were not going to get resources until the aftermath of an incident. And the question that we would ask is, again, ‘How thin does the ice have to get before someone falls through?’ ”

That ice broke at 9:40 p.m. on Sept. 11, when a cadre of men stormed the consulate compound. They fired guns, threw grenades and set buildings on fire.

What followed in the ensuing weeks is an astounding display either of incompetence or dishonesty, as Obama administration officials gave constantly shifting accounts of what happened.

For at least a week, State Department officials blamed the attack on a spontaneous demonstration against a rogue video, made in the U.S., that mocks Islam. U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said on Meet the Press on Sept. 16, “What happened in Benghazi was in fact initially a spontaneous reaction to what had just transpired hours before in Cairo, almost a copycat of the demonstrations against our facility in Cairo, prompted by the video.”

That explanation came under withering scrutiny, with pundits mocking the notion of “spontaneous” demonstrators showing up armed with rocket-propelled grenades.

Even as military and intelligence officials flatly stated the obvious as early as Sept. 13 — that the attack was a planned terrorist operation — the statements of those closest to the president, including Press Secretary Jay Carney, vacillated. On Sept. 18, Carney said, “Our belief ... is it was the video that caused the unrest in Cairo... and that precipitated some of the unrest in Benghazi and elsewhere.”

By Sept. 20, finally, Carney was declaring, “It is, I think, self-evident that what happened in Benghazi was a terrorist attack.”

What is equally evident is that, despite repeated concerns by diplomats working in Libya, the administration shortchanged security. And when the worst happened, it wasn’t willing to tell the truth to the American people.


Joe Bidens comment "We didn't know, was just another lie to cover the facts. A full month after the attack they are still l telling us lies.
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Everything "was preventable". So was 9/11!!!
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Kyle are you so far intothe bubble that pointing to the original 9/11 attack is all you can do. What about the testimony?


FYI Sen. Leibermann has formed a Senate Investigation Committee to review this tragedy and the events that followed it.

Aren't you even a little bit concerned that you have been lied to for a whole month.

And let me add this. Joe Biden lied about Libya, at the debate. He also lied about the effect Obama Care will have on the Catholic Church. He said that it would not affect Catholic Hospitals, Colleges and Charities. A boldface lie. 30 Law Suits have been filed against Obama Care by Catholic and other religious institutions.

Joe also lied that he voted against going into Iraq. He voted for it twice and he voted for the Annual Budgets that kept it going.

You and those who don't want to really know the truth are gullible fools.
Edited by RJ - 10/14/12 at 9:53am
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Not in a bubble at all. The fact remains all events are preventable. 9/11 is an example of there were known threats, some concerning airplanes. There are many many examples that can be thrown out there. The Bengazi incident is being pounded on by the GOP because there's a Democrat in the White House, that is all. I agree that investigation of what/who failed makes sense but the consistent belief that somehow Obama knew about the extra security request and turned it down is BS. That type of request does not go to the President. As for the aftermath, I agree there was confusion in too many corners of what exactly was going on. I still don't hang that on Obama though because if you do, then 9/11 is on Bush's plate, the African embassy bombings are on Clinton and the bombing of the Lebanon barracks is on Reagan.
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Everything "was preventable". So was 9/11!!!

Kyle now you have but of mess on your hands. Dems have argued
911 was preventable and Bush is at fault. Using that logic then Benghazi was preventable .

Now the White House coverup can't be swept under the rug so easily.
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Not in a bubble at all. The fact remains all events are preventable. 9/11 is an example of there were known threats, some concerning airplanes. There are many many examples that can be thrown out there. The Bengazi incident is being pounded on by the GOP because there's a Democrat in the White House, that is all. I agree that investigation of what/who failed makes sense but the consistent belief that somehow Obama knew about the extra security request and turned it down is BS. That type of request does not go to the President. As for the aftermath, I agree there was confusion in too many corners of what exactly was going on. I still don't hang that on Obama though because if you do, then 9/11 is on Bush's plate, the African embassy bombings are on Clinton and the bombing of the Lebanon barracks is on Reagan.

Pure and simple Bush inherited 911 ........ Seems to work for obama
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Everything "was preventable". So was 9/11!!!

Kyle, you are so full of crap dude. Our officials in Lybia were screaming for additional protection and security. They were not asking to protect the entire country. Just a couple of places where US citizens reside which is reasonable. You want to compare that to trying to protect an entire country from terrorism? Seriously?

 

Also, if you want to point fingers...

Oliver North was warning our government back in the 90s about Bin Laden. Al Gore LAUGHED at him saying something like...what can one man do? North urged them to keep their eye on Bin Laden and do something about him. His warnings were dismissed.

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love me some C&P.......wink.gif

of course it was preventable..........funny how the lefties who cried about 911 when bush was pres seem to have a different take on things now.........reps seems to have swithced too........



this would be one of those cheering for the laundry moments weve been talking about.
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Originally Posted by kyle241 View Post

Not in a bubble at all. The fact remains all events are preventable. 9/11 is an example of there were known threats, some concerning airplanes. There are many many examples that can be thrown out there. The Bengazi incident is being pounded on by the GOP because there's a Democrat in the White House, that is all. I agree that investigation of what/who failed makes sense but the consistent belief that somehow Obama knew about the extra security request and turned it down is BS. That type of request does not go to the President. As for the aftermath, I agree there was confusion in too many corners of what exactly was going on. I still don't hang that on Obama though because if you do, then 9/11 is on Bush's plate, the African embassy bombings are on Clinton and the bombing of the Lebanon barracks is on Reagan.

I'm not talking about the security requests. I'm talking about the BS they all floated about the Benghazi Attack evolved out of a protest about a video. that's the big lie. No one is saying Obama or Biden knew about the turning down requests for more security. They didn't know about that until the rest of us. But they did know about the actual attack and they knew it the morning after it happened.

The Under Secretary admitted it was her decision to not increase security to present a soft appearance in the nations of the mideast. The bottom line is that the buck stops at the Presidents Desk. Idology prevents this president from processing things that do agree with their view of the world.

And President Obama is well know for skipping his security briefings on almost a daily basis. Where is Hillary on this tradgey. It was here people who were killed. And it was her Under Secretary who made the bad decisions on security. She is staying off the skyline and pleading that the investigation hasn't finished prossing the evidence.

What's to process. 4 Americans died and the next day she and Obama and Ambassador Rice of the UN all started lying about the cause of the attack. A full month later Joe Biden lied during the debate that they didn't know.
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