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FIVE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS CONTRIBUTING TO CATCHING FISH FROM THE BEACH USING LURES?

post #1 of 20
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Last night I caught four bass in a spot that my buddies said simply would not be holding fish. I got the fish mostly due to persistence, but also because my logs told me that on a particular wind ,during times when fish were hard to find ,under certain conditions ,this spot held fish until August.

Fishing should first and foremost be fun, so we all have the option to just show up and cast and enjoy the sport. However,those anglers who actually put some thought about when and why fish should be present, do better than those who just show up and pray.

For the benefit of new anglers,just starting out(and for all of us who could always learn more)..please name what you consider (IN ORDER OF IMPORTANCE) the top five factors that contribute to finding and catching fish. Thanks. There is no absolute wrong or right..although some will be" righter" than others...just your opinion,please. Thanks. And, since most of us tend to fish primarily when we can,and mostly for fun,probably PERSISTENCE trumps all other factors. IMHO here are the factors that help us catch more fish:

#1Constant studying of the spots that you fish..so you know what happens there, under most conditions.

#2understanding where bait is coming from,what it is, and where its moving.(use of log to see patterns...although things change from year to year)

#3finding current

#4understanding the tides and when they are most productive.

#5 understanding which WINDS are most favorable to putting fish on the beach

WHAT DO YOU THINK ARE THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTORS THAT ALLOW YOU TO CATCH???
post #2 of 20

I think is depends on the location.

 

RE #4: Tides

 

Inlets/Canals I believe rely more on this, straight open ocean beach that is somewhat straight and miles long, the fishing isn't effected by the tide what so ever.

 

We all know current is a good thing, next I think it would be winds/moon/weather/barometer/water clarity/time of day . In no particular order, I think all are pretty important. 

 

Just my 2 cents. 

post #3 of 20

for me, bait is always the deciding factor... i always use lures that seem to be like the bait that is present and ALWAYS catch more when bait is actually there then when it is not present. If i can, i use a cast net and grab me a few of whatever is present(pilchards,mullet,herring,croakers) and put them at the discernible edge of the bait school. This has usually worked for me :)

post #4 of 20
southerly wind blowing the bait closer to the south shore beaches
post #5 of 20

I would have to say the presence of bait and moving water.
 

post #6 of 20
For stripers I look for spots with varying structure and bait, also it helps to check out a spot at low tide to better understand what rocks and other structure are in which areas and possible spots where Bass could ambush prey from
post #7 of 20
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Originally Posted by MTG929 View Post

For stripers I look for spots with varying structure and bait, also it helps to check out a spot at low tide to better understand what rocks and other structure are in which areas and possible spots where Bass could ambush prey from

That's a good point..I totally forgot about structure, or to mention looking for drop offs,lips and edges. It would not surprise me if some placed structure above most other factors in importance.
post #8 of 20
1. Tide/current

2. structure

3. lure presentation

4. bait present

5. wind
post #9 of 20
Dark/low light

Structure (including first drop off on a sandy beach)

Lure selection/size (small bait - small lures)

Fish are closer than you think, maybe behind you (especially in dark conditions)

Slow/no retrieve
post #10 of 20
Structure and bait . For me are the 2 most important factors...
post #11 of 20
All of the Above for me too,

Plus

Weather/ Barometric Pressure Gradient Direction / Air and Water temperatures is the deciding factor when/where ANDIF I fish that day! smile.gif
post #12 of 20
Bucktails
Knowledge
Time
Confidence
Bucktails
post #13 of 20
Reading the Beach / Finding Structure - Stripers are predatory, built for quick strikes and not chasing bait for miles, find structure and moving water and you'll find fish.

Match the Hatch to Bait present - if their feasting on sand eels and zoned in on them and your tossing a big fat herring pattern metal lip, guess what, you aint catching zilch. Profile/ shape is more important than color, but get those two right and you better hold onto your rod tightly. All the other fancy painting schemes, and beautifully airbrushed scales and big plastic eyes on your plugs - not as important as you'd like to think. wink.gif

Weather / Wind / Water Temp / Moon Phase - all very important, wind dictates so much in terms of moving baitfish. Moon phase influences tides greatly, Water Temps dicates migratory patterns - understanding this puzzle is what separates a weekend warrior from a true fisherman

Moving Water / Tides - whether just a turning of the tide, or finding rips or current or sweeps- moving water is a favorite tool that lurking stripers use to bring the food to them instead of chasing it around. Stripers are the ultimate opportunists and use moving water to do their dirty work for them.

Knowing How to Fish - this one might sound riculous, but understanding how to fish, work your lure presentation, work all parts of the water column till you find fish, and most importantly knowing how to adapt to the above 4 things listed and catch in any/all combinations of them - its an artform in and of itself.
post #14 of 20
Structure
Current
Wave action
Moon phase
Knowledge of location
post #15 of 20
I just wanted to add something, after talking with some guys recently about structure:

Most guys think structure is solely limited to rocks. Not So.

When bass are in ambush mode:

On the open beach, structure to bass could be a sand-bar and more importantly the sand-bar edge; I tend to catch more quality bass on the edge down current (the best place for a large fish to ambush,while excerting minimum energy). The area behind a jetty on the down current side. Adjacent to rip current areas. These are easy places to spot, just by walking on the beach during low tide. or sometimes I just look for the areas where sea debris tend to pile up high. I am always fishing around the "dirty spots". wink.gif

WHen they migrate:

Bass also uses the bottom contour as their "highway" to move during migration times, or between their feeding and resting places. I know people fishing adjacent to me think I am nuts when I do this, but I always cast out with only a sinker. All I am doing is creating a mental picture of this bottom "structure". Then I try to cast around the "holes" and the areas where the sinker got stuck the most. These are especially great places during early spring and late fall. I think the reason is bass tend to disperse during the hot summer months, and they do not tend to follow these trends. Thus our "honey holes" are "less sweet" during the summer time.

Also remember, there are always currents forming in the water in front of you; there are always un-equal pressure areas, and those are the areas holding the most fish. They are easier to spot if one observes from higher ground.

So, Structure is not just Rocks! It's Holes in the water, it's anything that makes the bottom contour different than the rest; it's the rips and the curents forming, which make up the fish highways!
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