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Jerome Corsi behind Obama Birth Cert "bombshell". No new, credible evidence.

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So, guess who's behind the latest birther push? Yup - Jerome Corsi. He co-authored a new book by Sheriff Arpaio, Months after his own book was pulled from the shelves, he suddenly has new info. Right!
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Just a quickie diary. Jerome Corsi was on Thom Hartmann today insisting that Barack Obama is still not qualified to be president.

His argument is that one can be a citizen under the 14th amendment but not a citizen under Article II of the constitution (actually I think he cited Article I, but he should have cited Article II). He was saying that before the 14th amendment, a person born in the United States was not a citizen, and even after the 14th amendment they do not count as a "natural born citizen."

From Dict.org:

From Bouvier's Law Dictionary, Revised 6th Ed (1856) :
CITIZEN, persons. One who, under the constitution and laws of the United
States, has a right to vote for representatives in congress, and other
public officers, and who is qualified to fill offices in the gift of the
people. In a more extended sense, under the word citizen, are included all
white persons born in the United States, and naturalized persons born out of
the same, who have not lost their right as such. This includes men, women,
and children.
2. Citizens are either native born or naturalized. Native citizens may
fill any office; naturalized citizens may be elected or appointed to any
office under the constitution of the United States, except the office of
president and vice-president. The constitution provides, that "the citizens
of each state shall be entitled to all the privileges and immunities of
citizens in the several states.OneOneOne" Art. 4, s. 2.
3. All natives are not citizens of the United States; the descendants
of the aborigines, and those of African origin, are not entitled to the
rights of citizens. Anterior to the adoption of the constitution of the
United States, each state had the right to make citizens of such persons as
it pleased. That constitution does not authorize any but white persons to
become citizens of the United States; and it must therefore be presumed that
no one is a citizen who is not white. 1 Litt. R. 334; 10 Conn. R. 340; 1
Meigs, R. 331.

This definition not only completely debunks Corsi, it also shows why that part of the 14th was necessary in the first place. And one could say that it illustrates other things too.
Trump: Birther Jerome Corsi Got it Wrong

This week, leading birther Jerome Corsi, the author of the new book, Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case That Barack Obama Is Not Eligible To Be President, claimed Donald Trump told him that President Barack Obama's recently released long-form birth certificate is a forgery. In a story published by WorldNetDaily, Corsi said that Trump told him that he'd gotten his own computer expert to take a look at the document and that this expert concluded it was computer-generated. WND's article made it seem that Trump was getting back into the birther business.

But Trump says Corsi's not telling the truth......

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2011/05/trump-birth-certificate-jerome-corsi



More outright lies from Jerome Corsi and Joe Farah over at World Net Daily.

Farah and Corsi have been furiously pimping Corsi’s new book, “Where’s the Birth Certificate?” – published by Farah’s WND Books – for weeks now. All last week, one article after another penned either by Farah or “journalist” Bob Unruh appeared on WND, each breathlessly presenting a new revelation about President Obama’s nativity. And by “new,” I mean the same tired old crap that has been continuously debunked for at least two years.

But hey! It’s on WND.com now, so it’s new!! Just ignore the cobwebs.
Anyway, Corsi’s book is now officially released (or escaped, I’m not through hit yet so I’m not quite certain) and they’re still pimping away.

Today WND reports the following “breaking news:” “Nordyke numbers expose Obama document fraud? Newly found details about birth registration show president’s certificate out of sequence.”
The Nordyke reference is to twins born the day after Pres. Obama was born, in the same hospital. The big scandal is that Obama’s certificate’s registration number is higher than that of the Nordyke twins, even though theirs were certified three days after Obama’s.

The implication is that the Obama birth certificate must have been forged without the forger’s knowledge that any other baby could have received a birth certificate at the same time as Pres. Obama.

You get that? Corsi’s hypothesis is that the forger was so stupid that (s)he would not have taken into account the fact that more than one baby might have been born at the hospital over the course of a day or two. Pure genius, I tell ya.

The more plausible explanation, as has been proffered by Doctor Conspiracy, is that the registrar sorted the birth certificates alphabetically, and then stamped them thusly.
I don’t want to go too deeply into that wormhole; I’ll do so in my more comprehensive review of Corsi’s book. But I do want to focus on one thing Corsi wrote in WND today.
But a 1955 article by Charles Bennett, Hawaii’s registrar general in 1961, and George Tokuyama, chief of the registration and records section for the state’s Department of Health, stated birth certificates were numbered immediately upon acceptance by the registrar-general.
And, later,

Bennett’s and Tokuyama’s description of this procedure shows that birth certificates were numbered upon acceptance by the registrar-general, and there was no provision that would allow an accepted birth certificate to be put in a pile for three days before a number was stamped on it.

Corsi quotes from the November-December 1955 edition of the “Hawaii Medical Journal,” in which Bennett and Tokuyama explain the inner workings of the then-territory’s Bureau of Health Statistics.
Included in that explanation is a description of how birth certificates are created, as well as other functions of the bureau.

Here’s the thing: Nowhere in that article does it say that the registrar will stamp the birth certificates as soon as they are submitted. It’s just not there. Corsi invented that assertion out of whole cloth.
Corsi is lying. He is flat-out making this up to support his “theory” that the long-form birth certificate released by Pres. Obama is a fake.

Jerome Corsi's Birther Book Pulled From Shelves!

In a stunning development one day after the release of Where's the Birth Certificate? The Case that Barack Obama is not Eligible to be President, by Dr. Jerome Corsi, World Net Daily Editor and Chief Executive Officer Joseph Farah has announced plans to recall and pulp the entire 200,000 first printing run of the book, as well as announcing an offer to refund the purchase price to anyone who has already bought either a hard copy or electronic download of the book.

In an exclusive interview, a reflective Farah, who wrote the book's foreword and also published Corsi's earlier best-selling work, Unfit for Command: Swift Boat Veterans Speak out Against John Kerry and Capricorn One: NASA, JFK, and the Great "Moon Landing" Cover-Up, said that after much serious reflection, he could not go forward with the project. "I believe with all my heart that Barack Obama is destroying this country, and I will continue to stand against his administration at every turn, but in light of recent events, this book has become problematic, and contains what I now believe to be factual inaccuracies," he said this morning. "I cannot in good conscience publish it and expect anyone to believe it."


Read more: http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/jerome-corsi-birther-book-5765410#ixzz1o91l4kgv



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These birthers are the same kooks that think the moon landing was faked?

Oy Vey!

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Originally Posted by squidlips View Post

These birthers are the same kooks that think the moon landing was faked?
Oy Vey!

Corsi - One of the most criminally negligent 'authors' of our times.
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Birthers get blue-balled again. It was fun to watch them pop up out of the cracks for a few days and see that they are still here.
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Originally Posted by Gamakatsu View Post

Birthers get blue-balled again. It was fun to watch them pop up out of the cracks for a few days and see that they are still here.

It's not even sporting to point out their lies...... until they start trash-talking!

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Edited by The Mad Deckhand - 3/4/12 at 9:14am
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LOL - and the only 'credible' evidence you have Obama was born here in the States is some 'non-birth certificate' document that was produced in collaboration between Obama and some poor Hawaii biatchola and says 'I's born here'...Nothing else...LOL
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LOL - and the only 'credible' evidence you have Obama was born here in the States is some 'non-birth certificate' document that was produced in collaboration between Obama and some poor Hawaii biatchola and says 'I's born here'...Nothing else...LOL


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Put liberal right below birther
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Originally Posted by tony44 View Post

Put liberal right below birther

Nothing goes below birther.
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I think the 9/11 Truthers have something to say about that MD!
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Originally Posted by The Dude View Post

I think the 9/11 Truthers have something to say about that MD!

I just don't believe that fire could melt steel......

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Originally Posted by The Dude View Post

I think the 9/11 Truthers have something to say about that MD!
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Originally Posted by tony44 View Post

Put liberal right below birther
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Originally Posted by The Mad Deckhand View Post

Nothing goes below birther.

Definitive proof validating the old expression 'a person is their own worse critic'...LOL
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Originally Posted by The Mad Deckhand View Post

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LOL - you posted what I described ('certificate of live birth' from Hawaii) - not a birth certificate...and you act like you've posted some thing I didn't know about...you should ponder the little 'dummy level' chart that you directed at me for your own sake
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Originally Posted by albacized View Post

LOL - you posted what I described ('certificate of live birth' from Hawaii) - not a birth certificate...and you act like you've posted some thing I didn't know about...you should ponder the little 'dummy level' chart that you directed at me for your own sake

EVERY PERSON who sends off for their BC in the state of Hawaii, gets a certificate of live birth - everyone. Obama had his hanging in his office in Chicago and invited everyone who wanted the opportunity to see it.

If you are looking for a fight, you are in over your head.

Jerome Corsi is too smart of a man to believe this horse-hockey.......I think he needs the cash.
Edited by The Mad Deckhand - 3/4/12 at 6:38pm
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Originally Posted by albacized View Post

LOL - you posted what I described ('certificate of live birth' from Hawaii) - not a birth certificate...and you act like you've posted some thing I didn't know about...you should ponder the little 'dummy level' chart that you directed at me for your own sake

I got a driver's license, marriage license, passport, social security card, etc based on that same document. it's, for all intents and purposes, a birth certificate.
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