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I'm looking to service a penn squidder I just picked up, I figured while doing so I might as well "hot rod" it out so to speak. I checked out Alan Tani's page and he's got a 145 that he did some mods to. Pretty much a narrow frame and spool conversion kit (140 to 146) I'm realitvly new to conventionals so would doing this be worth it? What are the benefits? and do I have any other options spool wise etc? I'm going to use this for 8nbait, eels, and plugging...Thanks, Matt
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Originally Posted by tradrodz View Post
I'm looking to service a penn squidder I just picked up, I figured while doing so I might as well "hot rod" it out so to speak. I checked out Alan Tani's page and he's got a 145 that he did some mods to. Pretty much a narrow frame and spool conversion kit (140 to 146) I'm realitvly new to conventionals so would doing this be worth it? What are the benefits? and do I have any other options spool wise etc? I'm going to use this for 8nbait, eels, and plugging...Thanks, Matt





Some guys like the narrow spool for casting, I always used the regular 140 for my Squidders when bait fishing, not sure if the narrow spool guys preffered them for plugging or what the reason was. I also had 146 squidders but only used them for bait fishing. IMO plugging is tough with a squidder as the retrieve ratio is so slow. But I only would plug with mine when a blitz developed and I had to cut bait and tie on a plug to quickly get to the blitsz, and then when trying to reel the plug in fast for the next cast the slow retrieve would be annoying as you just want to be able to get your plug back into the blitz zone before it disappears.



Up until a few years ago it was very easy to get a 140 to 146 conversion kit at any B and T. Now not as many B and T as there were just a few years ago ( too many shop cheap at the big stores and forget about what else you are getting from a B and T ) , and since Penn discontinued the Squidders, the parts started to disappear to tackle hoarders or wherever all those parts went. Same as the Z series spinners. Those old Penn reels are really all you would ever need for any fishing here in the NE, just not as smooth or refined as the newer stuff out there today.



You can try a few B and T's for the parts you'll need or they may know where you can get the parts you need. Don't forget to buy something, anything while there if they don't have your parts.



If that doesn't work there is always fleabay, you may have to be patient, but eventually you'll get what you need. Newell has parts that fit the Squidders, spools etc. Penn made plastic spools, get the plastic spools with the fins on the side if you buy plastic. The problem with the plastic spools is if you put the first few wraps on too tight the mono wants to contract and the spool can actually crack/explode under the pressure. Penn also made aluminum spools, these are great and can be magged:



here is a link with some info on magging the Squidders http://www.100megspop3.com/oldvalkyry/pennmag.html
post #3 of 9
You can static mag that Squidder. Just do a google search for "magging a Squidder" and you should find a good tutorial.
post #4 of 9
One more thing, you didn't mention if you know how to cast with a conventional.



If you don't know how, I would suggest using heavy test mono ( thicker prevents getting between spool and frame ) and buy a cheap brand as you may be cutting out some birds nests when you first start so no need to waste money on expensive line.
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One more thing, you didn't mention if you know how to cast with a conventional.

If you don't know how, I would suggest using heavy test mono ( thicker prevents getting between spool and frame ) and buy a cheap brand as you may be cutting out some birds nests when you first start so no need to waste money on expensive line.



Reg, Thanks for the in depth info you pretty much covered all the bases I appreciate very much! I'm still learning how to cast, I picked up an Abu 6500c3 about a year ago I haven't used it to much but the few times I have used it, it came pretty easy but then again I heard the 6500c3's are very user friendly...The only reason I picked the squidder up was because I got it at a fleamarket for $10 and I really couldn't pass a deal like that up, plus I've heard lots of good things about that reel and it would probably be better suited for 8nbait and eels than the Abu. Also you mentioned the aluminum spool, mine came with the an aluminum spool not the plastic one. So in your opinion if you were me would you just have it serviced and fish it? or do all the tricks to it? Thanks
post #6 of 9
Nobody makes faster gears.

So you are stuck cranking for like, forever, getting that long cast back in so you can make another long cast, and take forever winding it back.
post #7 of 9
Stick with the Aluminum spool.
Penn stopped making the plastic one because it implodes with monofilament.
I thought it was a lot of bunk, until it happened to me.

The narrow spool is easier to cast, because the diameter of the spooled line decreases toward the end of the cast ....this is the equivalent of slowing the spool down. The narrow spool kills your distance. The wide one may be frustrating at first, but when you get used to it, it is the best.

For a Squidder, there is no such thing as a plastic spool without the fins.
I say again, use the Aluminum spool. The only mod you need is to "mag" it.

I remember when a brand-new reel was cheaper than your flea market bargain!

AMMO
post #8 of 9
good info AMMO .

i magged my squidders according to the link RegDunlop put up and highly recommend doing that .
save the link and never look back . aluminum spool 140L squidder = 8 'n bait .
post #9 of 9
old schoolers told me to dremel the fins off the plastic spool to speed it up ,i think it is not necessary great reel have 6 of , great on a honey lam with a castmaster
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