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neighbor's electric bill is triple.......why?

post #1 of 41
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My neighbor came to me about his electric bill which is 3x ($750-$800 month) mine which is $250 in winter $450 w the the AC ripping in mid summer. His bill doesn't vary much in the summer although he has AC as well. He has a smaller house, oil/forced air heat, oil hot water, gas stove, and electric dryer. We have an electric stove top as well, not gas. Same number of people in each house.



Con Ed says "it is what it is" although I suspect that they would come and check it out if the neighbors were persistent. I told them to throw the main breaker and then check the meter to see if it was still spinning, but other than that I don't know what to suggest.

I just can't figure it out unless his son has a "garden" growing that no one knows about. Any ideas?
post #2 of 41
Holy crap!.....and I when I see mine at about $170-$200 in summer months when the AC is going, $140-$150 in winter.............and National Grid keeps sending me stuff telling me that MY bill is 50% higher than my surrounding neighbors.



(For me, electric oven and stove, electric dryer, electric water heater, two fridges, among the other standard lights and stuff....).



What are you guys paying down there per kW hour?
post #3 of 41
My first thought was-is someone tapping into his line? Then is the meter accurate or does it need to be replaced?

Turning off your main and checking the meter as suggested would answer the first question.
post #4 of 41
Thread Starter 
Not really sure Steve I would guess $.20 per Kwh.

Here is my con ed bill for my office; (EL9 general large)

Supply charges:

energy supply 1764 kWh 140.96

Demand supply 11.5kW 66.01

Fees $7.64


Delivery Charges:


basic service $9.20

Energy delivery 1764 kWh 63.87

Demand delivery 11.5 kW 185.39

BS fees $28.00

sales tax 8.875% 44.11

total

$541.13
post #5 of 41
I'm paying about 50 bucks/month here for a two bed room, two story home on the water and poorly insulated. Funny one of my neighbors was bitching about her electric bill to me as it was significantly more like 4 times as much as mine was...
post #6 of 41
It sounds like the meter is off or somthing may be using unexpected high amount of electric. Turn everything of then start turning things on one by one and watch the meter to see if there may be a change obvious to the eye. Or have an electriction test every circuit.
post #7 of 41
did you ask him if his refrigerator is running? that would be my first question.
post #8 of 41
Thread Starter 
Basically there are lights, 2 air handlers, and an electric dryer. To use that much juice it would have to be a heater or AC or 1000 w metal hallides.
post #9 of 41
Thread Starter 
They had the electrician out that did their remodel 3 years ago and he said it was "all good." They've tried turning stuff on and off, looking at the meter etc.

I think he needs them to have the power company do some testing.
post #10 of 41
How do they even read meters nowadays?
Used to be that a meter reader would walk the street and record the readings, but frankly I don't know how they do it now.

I think he needs to go in and request an audit, either the meter is bad, or they have him on estimation for some reason?
post #11 of 41
Paul - looks like you just use more electric than I do......last bill was 1049 kW hours ($149), which is about average for winter months.....our high for the year was 1420 in July and August......also, we don't have sales tax on our electric here.....or a "basic service" charge



Our supply charge is $0.08083 per kWh



Distribution and transmission charges are $0.061535 per kWh, which includes a distribution charge (varies with use, first 600 kWh is one price, after that it is higher), transition charge, transmission charge, efficiency charge and renewable energy charge.
post #12 of 41
I saw a device that you plug into the outlet and then plug your electric device into it and it shows how much that electric device is costing you; you program in the amount per KW and it does the rest. I think it was at Lowes.
post #13 of 41
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Originally Posted by Billybob View Post
How do they even read meters nowadays?

Used to be that a meter reader would walk the street and record the readings, but frankly I don't know how they do it now.



I think he needs to go in and request an audit, either the meter is bad, or they have him on estimation for some reason?



Valid question, as come to think of it, over the winter I didn't see any footprints in the snow going around back of the house where my meter is.



I know that a number of years ago the town water department put in a device such that all they have to do is pull up in my driveway, and they get a transmission from the water meter to another device in their car/truck. Perhaps now it is the same sort of thing for electric?



Certainly for a bill that out of line I would personally check the meter against the reading on the bill......but from what Paul said in his original post, I am not sure that this was a one time thing, and sounds like it has been ongoing for months.
post #14 of 41
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Originally Posted by Paul_M View Post
My neighbor came to me about his electric bill which is 3x ($750-$800 month) mine which is $250 in winter $450 w the the AC ripping in mid summer. His bill doesn't vary much in the summer although he has AC as well. He has a smaller house, oil/forced air heat, oil hot water, gas stove, and electric dryer. We have an electric stove top as well, not gas. Same number of people in each house.



Con Ed says "it is what it is" although I suspect that they would come and check it out if the neighbors were persistent. I told them to throw the main breaker and then check the meter to see if it was still spinning, but other than that I don't know what to suggest.

I just can't figure it out unless his son has a "garden" growing that no one knows about. Any ideas?


$ 750.00 in the winter ?? for electric in a house that is primarily run on oil and gas ?? dont sound right.
post #15 of 41
Hot tub with electric heater?

Seems crazy high... I am mad that I can't get mine out of the 180 range, I would level the house if I got a 400+ dollar bill!

Electric drier that is clogged causing super long dry times combined with a house that is constantly washing towells could definetly bump up the bill.
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