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Best Knot: Braid to HEAVIER Mono Leader

post #1 of 65
3/6/11 at 3:22pm
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I want to use a knot rather than swivel because its a PITA when it goes through the tip. Plus the leader I will be using will be quite long to help bring big fish onto the rocks. I want to use a knot to connect 50lb braid to 60-80lb mono. The 60-80lb will be used to help with abrasion from rocks and the teeth of bluefish. So what are your suggestions?



Personally I've used the Albright knot which tends to slip on me unless super glued. I've also used the shock leader knot, but the profile is kind of big due to the overhand knot on the mono.



Thanks.
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post #2 of 65
3/6/11 at 3:35pm
I've tied 40 and 50 pound braid to 150 pound mono via an Alberto knot with success. I wrapped it 6-8 times each way instead of 10, because 10 is harder to cinch up.
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post #3 of 65
3/6/11 at 3:46pm
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Originally Posted by joshilopez23 View Post
I want to use a knot rather than swivel because its a PITA when it goes through the tip. Plus the leader I will be using will be quite long to help bring big fish onto the rocks. I want to use a knot to connect 50lb braid to 60-80lb mono. The 60-80lb will be used to help with abrasion from rocks and the teeth of bluefish. So what are your suggestions?

Personally I've used the Albright knot which tends to slip on me unless super glued. I've also used the shock leader knot, but the profile is kind of big due to the overhand knot on the mono.

Thanks.


Do you double your braid when tying the albright?? I've never had knot failure when doubled. I use a spider hitch on my power pro giving you double line and then treat both sides as one line, tie your albright
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post #4 of 65
3/6/11 at 3:47pm
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Originally Posted by Kima View Post
I've tied 40 and 50 pound braid to 150 pound mono via an Alberto knot with success. I wrapped it 6-8 times each way instead of 10, because 10 is harder to cinch up.


Did Someone Say " Alberto"?

I also like this knot along with the Uni to Uni
Google fishing knots they have some great how to illustrations.........
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post #5 of 65
3/6/11 at 3:57pm
The alberto is just a Modified Albright. Might be an easier search.



The Frankiesurf knot (aka Uni to Uni) is a solid knot for braid to mono and fairly easy to tie (with practice) on a night tide.













Just figured it would be cool to name a knot after myself. Sorry for any confusion.
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post #6 of 65
3/6/11 at 4:06pm
Alberto knot...
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post #7 of 65
3/6/11 at 4:15pm
I use a bimini twist to double the line ( treat the duble as one line in the knots ahead) and then either a shock leader knot or a uni to uni.. works fine no failure..
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post #8 of 65
3/6/11 at 5:02pm
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Originally Posted by Awesome John View Post
I use a bimini twist to double the line ( treat the duble as one line in the knots ahead) and then either a shock leader knot or a uni to uni.. works fine no failure..



Thats gotta be one of the strongest ways to do it. 40 turn bimini to a uni to uni. Just make sure the both legs of the bimini are =
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post #9 of 65
3/6/11 at 5:09pm
A reverse albright/worm knot for big mono to braid.




This one works well and is easy to tie on a rocking boat.


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post #10 of 65
3/6/11 at 5:56pm
Thread Starter 
Thanks guys the Uni and the uni-uni have to be my favorite knots because they are so easy to tie. I usually do uni-uni when the leader is not that heavy (can't cinch 80lb test well enough on a uni knot). I also use it for braid to braid in case I need to put more line on the spool. Never had that fail.



I will try using the alberto and reverse albright knots. Do I really have to use a bimini to double the braid? I think I'll stick with the spider hitch.



Nightfishing, I've had it slip when tied mono to mono say 20lb to 80lb shock leader. However, I powercast that rig with 8oz of lead + bunker chunk/head so maybe that why it slips or rips. I double braid when tying to swivels so I'll be sure to do the same for tying directly to a leader.



Thanks again.
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post #11 of 65
3/6/11 at 6:12pm
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Originally Posted by Awesome John View Post
I use a bimini twist to double the line ( treat the duble as one line in the knots ahead) and then either a shock leader knot or a uni to uni.. works fine no failure..


Try tying that at night on a heavy tide in Montauk after you brake off in a blitz!

It ain't going to happen!

What's Up Brother??
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post #12 of 65
3/6/11 at 6:20pm
A Sebile knot with my own slight modification. I can tie it in the dark in 30 seconds. - HPD

60# mono to 50# braid:
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post #13 of 65
3/6/11 at 6:44pm
OK HPD; I know you're going to show us how!
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post #14 of 65
3/6/11 at 6:51pm
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Originally Posted by frankiesurf View Post
The alberto is just a Modified Albright. Might be an easier search.



Today's 'alberto' is the albright that I learned many years ago. There's a couple of different variations of it. They al work well. Practice some and see what works best for the braid and mono that you are working with. I do make some adjustments with mine depending on what I'm working with.
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post #15 of 65
3/6/11 at 6:55pm
Just looked at a You Tube video for the Sebile knot - the mono/fluoro leader doesn't get doubled over so it looks thinner than an Albright. I'll still keep my uni to uni for on the beach night tying but I think I'll give this Sebile knot a whirl when tying stuff on at home with access to You Tube (the video was 5 1/2 minutes and I'm sure it will take me longer to tie it for a while)
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