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daiwa grandwave 40

post #1 of 15
2/17/10 at 6:26pm
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hi guy's, was woundering what kind of distance i can or should get with this. i'm not the best at casting a casting reel more a spinner so i'm nor expecting to spool it right away. i will be use it for bait fishing live and cut with no more than 6 or 7 oz of lead, on a 11ft tsunami trophy spinning rod(don't have a casting rod yet). will start off with mono (20lb-30lb)but want to switch to braid later 65lb+. any advise will be nice and i will thank you all now, love this site. even though i don't post alot on here still surf it every day. thanks and tight line justin
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post #2 of 15
2/17/10 at 9:44pm
I have the Grandwave 30,11 ft rod,can cast it a long ways;I have been thumbing for years,it well take a while for you to be able to control your cast when you are trying to heave a long ways,I have used a open face reel on a spinning rod,but some times certain rods have their backbones or strength in opposite sides of the rod..also I find that the Daiwa reel gearboxes do not fit a large dia reel seat...don't hate,but I would trade or sell the 40 and get a 20 or a good spinning reel for your spinning rod...Grandwave 40,$85 to $100 maybe,just my opinion,actually I like to throw a 20 better..
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post #3 of 15
2/17/10 at 9:59pm
Hey Justin. Welcome to the wonderful world of surf casting with conventional reels

I'd agree with some of what boscoebrea said. The Grandwave 40 isn't really the conventional reel you want to be learning on. It has a big, heavy spool and can tough to control. You'd do much better with a 20-sized reel. Daiwa Grandwave, SL-SH, SL-SHA, SL-SHX, Saltist...all these series have a solid 20 size that will handle a majority of whats out there. Take your reel to the BST and see if you can find a trade for a 20-sized Daiwa, a Penn 525GS or a decent Abu 6500.

Regarding the rod, keep it. As long as you are within the weight range your rod will serve fine as a conventional instead of a spinner. Again though, you're a little over-reeled. I'd put a GW40 on a stout 12' or 13' heaver for fishing heavy. Sharks, mostly. Heck, I've seen sharks, cobia and big rays landed on the 30-size reels.

If you decide to keep the 40, you'll need 30-40# mono to tame it while you learn casting. Buy the cheap stuff and practice. I'd stay away from braid for the time being. That reel will hold way more than enough line for most anything you want off the beach.

Evan
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post #4 of 15
2/18/10 at 1:10am
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thanks guys, i know it's kind of big but got a good deal on it and like the gw's cause there kind of hard to find anymore. plus this is one of my goals for this year.i have been looking at some 20slosh and penn 525 mag, i like the slosh's and can't go wrong with a "real" penn. i would like to stay with a 11ft rod for some reason 12+ just are not comfortable to me and i'm 6'2" don't know why just aint. i will be useing this 97% for bank fishing for catfish, and most of the time i only need to cast 80yrds or so with a couple spots 100+. now i can easily reach these with my spinner's, but want a heavy setup for big baits and for a casting rig for sharks when i head to the beach.
and i was planning on just useing mono till i get my thumb set, but once i start useing braid wanted to use 65# or even 80#. should i be able to reach 100yrds with say 6nbait with the heavy line? i throw 40pp now on my spinner's but am done with pp(whole other thread) but thinking of trying JB. thanks again guys and tight lines justin


all ya what rod clamp will fit this it didn't come with one?
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post #5 of 15
2/18/10 at 1:35am
I would avoid rod clamps with the Tica. Anything strong enough to bust up your reel foot is going to break the rod first. Also, graphite reel seats and rod clamps don't go too well together. Ask me how I know .

80yds is a pretty decent chunk with heavy baited rigs off the beach. That 40 can do it once you figure it out. Put in the heaviest brakes available, put thick oil in the bearings and tighten the tension knob. Get used to the reel's performance before backing off the tension. You'll get used to it.

Evan
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post #6 of 15
2/18/10 at 6:08pm
Tell me more about the rod clamps...
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post #7 of 15
2/18/10 at 8:16pm
I've cracked one graphite reel seat with a rod clamp. And I've seen two other seats crush at the clamp when under load.

IMO, rod clamps should only be used when you're worried about the reel foot breaking. They are there to be a backup.

I use reel clamps on aluminum seats, and only on reels I use for big fish. Sharks, kings, cobia, etc. Anything that will hit a pin rig or a big chunk of fish on the bottom.

Evan
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post #8 of 15
2/19/10 at 2:03pm
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i would never of thought that, thanks for the info sucks you found out the hard way lol. if a catfish breaks my reel seat i'm freaking diving in after the beast lmao.
on a diff note anyone know anything about daiwa magforce sealine 170 or have one. any info or opinions likes or dislikes. thanks and tight lines justin
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post #9 of 15
2/19/10 at 6:34pm
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Originally Posted by kingfisherman23 View Post
I've cracked one graphite reel seat with a rod clamp. And I've seen two other seats crush at the clamp when under load.

IMO, rod clamps should only be used when you're worried about the reel foot breaking. They are there to be a backup.

I use reel clamps on aluminum seats, and only on reels I use for big fish. Sharks, kings, cobia, etc. Anything that will hit a pin rig or a big chunk of fish on the bottom.

Evan


Thanks
MIne are coming off....
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post #10 of 15
2/20/10 at 12:45pm
great reel ,really one of the best built reels I have,only problem for me is it is a little on the heavy side for surf casting,but a great reel,I will never get rid of mine and the mag system is easy to use and works,if the wt. doesn't bother you,that would be about the Best big getting Catfish reel there is....again one of the best built reels ever...just my opinion....
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post #11 of 15
2/22/10 at 10:06pm
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Originally Posted by boscoebrea View Post
great reel ,really one of the best built reels I have,only problem for me is it is a little on the heavy side for surf casting,but a great reel,I will never get rid of mine and the mag system is easy to use and works,if the wt. doesn't bother you,that would be about the Best big getting Catfish reel there is....again one of the best built reels ever...just my opinion....

thanks for the info, i have only seen the magforce 170 not the 250? are you talking about the sl 250h? i'm not to worried about the weight i would be useing it for chunking. plus it has to be lighter than the grandwave. thanks again and tight lines justin
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post #12 of 15
4/24/10 at 1:23pm
Keep casting with the "40". You will eventually get it right. I cast "50 sealines" on a 9ft and a 10 ft heaver and throw 8 & bait for sharks all the time! They hold plenty of 25 plus shock and you can land some big fish on this setup. I caught a 42 pound cobia and a 150 pound shark last year on this setup! I also throw a 7000 mag and get great distance but the 7000 wont hold enough line to handle what I fish for.
Dave
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post #13 of 15
6/17/10 at 4:45am
its quite strange because in south africa a grand wave 40 or shimano 20 is considered a medium sized reel and would be used mainly when you want the greatest distance to your cast. but i suppose different fishing conditions lead to different styles. for casting purposes i actually learnt on a bigger reel as it spins slower and you can get use to the idea of controlling the reel with your thumb. but like i said, its a completely different style of fishing
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post #14 of 15
6/17/10 at 4:54pm
Set reel up with the heavy break blocks and thick oil and the reel will become quite good for distance.

Here is a video .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1yMRVJkOZ0
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post #15 of 15
6/20/10 at 6:57am
so that tsunamie rod you throw with do you like it
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