crw4374 Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 Heading down to the Emeral Ise this August on vacation once again, can't wait and for me that means non-stop fishing all day (dinner for an hour with my wife) then back to the beach to fish some more. Been to Bogue Pier and usually hit the beach early morning and evening. I have had a lot of luck, but this year would like to go for something bigger - especially off the beach in the surf. Maybe larger blues/black fin shark. I am good with rod/reels and have everything from expensive (Penn) to inexpensive surf combo - what line/rig set-up/hook size/bait would you recommend for the big catch possibilitites? thanks and see ya out there later this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerkjigger Posted March 19, 2008 Report Share Posted March 19, 2008 if your throwin bait, depends if you want spinning/conventional. if your goin for sharks, i would use heavy mono leader/ or just use wire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crw4374 Posted March 20, 2008 Author Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 thanks, now here is my other consideration. spinning vs. conventional. i never owned a conventional but i hear the advantages (Penn 114H 6/0). Here is my dilema before purchasing one. I like to fish with my rod in a rod holder. Having never used a conventional, can you do that with that type of reel or do you need to keep your thumb on the line to prevent bird nesting....silly question, but don't know Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_rigr Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 I know you can't really cast a 6/0 but in any other case you should control the spool with your thumb while casting, but don't hold it on there so tight that you burn your thumb. If you're floating baits out you might want to keep an eye on the spool in case it decides to birdsnest. When the bait is out, as long as the clicker is on with minimum drag or in free spool then you can put it in the rod holder if you like doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobia_slayer Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 never fished for blackfins but i know they don't get to big (5'-6' max) you don't need anything realy big to catch'em. i think a 6/0 is over kill, a X-SHV 30 or a jigmaster 500 is plenty big enough, and you'd deffanetly have more fun. and for the leader you only need a foot long peice of cable, but some thicker mono conected to that so it doesn't break when it rubs up aginst the fish. back to reels i recomend conventional to spinning for big fish, cause there (to me) biult better and they hold more line for there size, and some conventional reels have a more powerfull drag. rod- use a big rod and by big i mean XXH, with A LOT of back bone, if you use a tall rod there's going to be more stress on you, and your back will hurt the next morning, so the tallest i'd recomend for shark is 10' that can throw 7-15oz or more. line- using spinnig gear, i'd use something that can withstand a lot of tention and abuse, cause that line is going to be twisted and beyond. conventionals, like i said you shouldn't need anything bigger than a X-SHV 30 they hold close to 300yds of 20# and if you play the fish right thats more than enough. and a jigmaster 500 holds 400yds or more of 20#, i've only had one fish spool me on that reel (never saw it) but usually thats a lot of line. and i've caught fish over 100# on both reels with 20# big game (not once did i see the spool.) rig/hook- there's a rig called the pully rig, basicly it turns a 10' leader into 5' when you're casting it. a single 9/0 or 10/0 hook should be good bait- the bloodier the better LTSL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king_rigr Posted April 3, 2008 Report Share Posted April 3, 2008 never fished for blackfins but i know they don't get to big (5'-6' max) you don't need anything realy big to catch'em. i think a 6/0 is over kill, a X-SHV 30 or a jigmaster 500 is plenty big enough, and you'd deffanetly have more fun. and for the leader you only need a foot long peice of cable, but some thicker mono conected to that so it doesn't break when it rubs up aginst the fish. back to reels i recomend conventional to spinning for big fish, cause there (to me) biult better and they hold more line for there size, and some conventional reels have a more powerfull drag. rod- use a big rod and by big i mean XXH, with A LOT of back bone, if you use a tall rod there's going to be more stress on you, and your back will hurt the next morning, so the tallest i'd recomend for shark is 10' that can throw 7-15oz or more. line- using spinnig gear, i'd use something that can withstand a lot of tention and abuse, cause that line is going to be twisted and beyond. conventionals, like i said you shouldn't need anything bigger than a X-SHV 30 they hold close to 300yds of 20# and if you play the fish right thats more than enough. and a jigmaster 500 holds 400yds or more of 20#, i've only had one fish spool me on that reel (never saw it) but usually thats a lot of line. and i've caught fish over 100# on both reels with 20# big game (not once did i see the spool.) rig/hook- there's a rig called the pully rig, basicly it turns a 10' leader into 5' when you're casting it. a single 9/0 or 10/0 hook should be good bait- the bloodier the better go with what cs said...he's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robby Posted April 6, 2008 Report Share Posted April 6, 2008 thanks, now here is my other consideration. spinning vs. conventional. i never owned a conventional but i hear the advantages (Penn 114H 6/0). Here is my dilema before purchasing one. I like to fish with my rod in a rod holder. Having never used a conventional, can you do that with that type of reel or do you need to keep your thumb on the line to prevent bird nesting....silly question, but don't know had a shark pull my rod right in the water, using a conv. , make sure your hand is on it though. Throw out full spots or pinfish and plenty of big fish will knock, just hold on! I had fun with a 4 1/2 footer last year on the beach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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