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post #1 of 36
Thread Starter 
Need some help!
Have a Scout CC 20 Sport Fisher.
Put the boat in the water. Notice that she is sitting unbalanced and scuppers are sitting under the water line filling the boat. Checked the obviousy. Turns out that the drain system which Scout says is high tech and " Dare to compare" in the boat is just a really poor design that won't let the water drain. Well it drains but right behind the stringer with no where for the water to go other then breaking the closed cell foam down and adding hundreds of pounds to the boat. Either have to cut the deck or take it off. Has anyone run across or into it with a Scout.
post #2 of 36
Sorry to hear that. I've seen and heard complaints on certain Scout models having this problem going back over 5 years ago. There are stories all over the net about guys complaining about fishing in puddles at the back of their Scouts - not too bad in the summer, but a real pita togging in November. What year is your boat?

You can put some kink of one-way scupper flaps to help keep the water out.
post #3 of 36
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Originally Posted by Wayne Tj View Post
You can put some kink of one-way scupper flaps to help keep the water out.


temporary solution. usually they will foul within a year and then let the water back in.
post #4 of 36
What size engine do you have on your scout? Is it a four stroke?
post #5 of 36
While it is a poor design, many boats suffer from this now because they were not designed for the weight of the 4 strokes, it is easily corrected. Buy the ball valve one way drains, they will not let water in but they will let it out. The boat will drain a little slower regardless since they will still be under water but at least no water will be getting in. I have a small skiff that was not designed for the weight of a 4 stroke and I've had the ball drains on it since I bought it new in 99 and they work like a charm. No water at all ever gets in. Boaters world, defender marine, etc they all sell them. Just figure out if you need the large or small diameter. The flapper valves will not work for you so don't waste you time with them.
post #6 of 36
I own a 2003, Scout 202 sportfish CC. I'm running a Honda 150 four stroke. The scuppers rest close to the water line, yet the deck remains dry, no puddles ever. I've taken water over the bow in some rough seas and she self bails with no problems, the same situation with heavy rains, she drains off clean and dry. Are you running a four stroke, and again what size engine? Actual weight of the motor might be a factor.
post #7 of 36
I have been enjoying this site for a few months and felt I needed to chime in to respond to this post.. During my recent boat shopping/researching I ran into a few Scout bashers such as this on other sites..They where almost always from first time posters who offered no proof such as pics, and never responded when called out.. It's usually the same tired, un-founded claims of leaking scuppers and soaked foam, and they are never confirmed by actual Scout owners with similar experiences.. Every company will have a few boats get out of the factory with flaws, but I've found no more evidence of issues with Scout than any other boats during my research. I think there are some out there with their own agendas that are purposely trying to hurt this company's reputation.. I would challenge this poster to put up some pics and prove me wrong, otherwise I'm not buying this story at all!
post #8 of 36
Thread Starter 
Boat is a 1995 with a 150 Merc 2 stroke. Beaware that the drain system that is hooked up to the rod holders etc can break free in rough waters and water will drain and be trapped behind the stringers. Very poor design
post #9 of 36
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Originally Posted by 3Beard View Post
I have been enjoying this site for a few months and felt I needed to chime in to respond to this post.. During my recent boat shopping/researching I ran into a few Scout bashers such as this on other sites..They where almost always from first time posters who offered no proof such as pics, and never responded when called out.. It's usually the same tired, un-founded claims of leaking scuppers and soaked foam, and they are never confirmed by actual Scout owners with similar experiences.. Every company will have a few boats get out of the factory with flaws, but I've found no more evidence of issues with Scout than any other boats during my research. I think there are some out there with their own agendas that are purposely trying to hurt this company's reputation.. I would challenge this poster to put up some pics and prove me wrong, otherwise I'm not buying this story at all!


True, but if you refuse to believe that there are some Scout models/motor configurations out there where there can be a puddle of water on the deck with a normal load of people and gear, do the research yourself. Google up Scout, scupper, water. I've even seen pictures posted on other sites by Scout owners complaining.

Bear in mind, that these problems are not endemic to all Scout boat boats, in fact it's just a few configurations that date back about 4-5 years ago when they installed the scuppers that would be above the waterline with a max-HP 2 stroke outboard, but not with the equivalent 4 stroke.

Personally, I consider Scout boats to be upper mid-tier quality for the market they target. For the most part, they are made very well. Even though they are too gussied up for my tastes in a fishing boat - but hey, some guys wives actually want to go fishing with them
post #10 of 36
Thread Starter 
Like to respond to 3 Beard.
My posting is to trouble shoot the problem that I'm having with my boat. To see if anyone has run across the problem and gather information on the boat before I drop thousands of dollars trying to repair the problem based on what you say un-founded claims. Give me a break!!!!I'd be happy to share pics and the estimate with you. I'll even overnight you the broken down, drenched foam so you can use for your garden. Boaters need to be aware of the problem I'm running across for their safety as well as others. I wouldn't even sell the boat to someone with the problem that I'm up against. After talking with Scouts engineers and sending letters to Steve Potts the president of Scout with no help at best i'm on here. It's not the scuppers it's the drain system that drains behind the stingers that has added hundreds of pounds to the boat and weighing her down. Guys 3 Beard is probably Scouts engineer or President Steve Potts just trying to make money or cover the companies ass. Please 3 Beard be my guest and purchase a Scout. You desire it from your posting.
post #11 of 36
Rbboxer, the fact that you even responded to my post makes be believe that you may be an actual owner with a real problem, and if this is the case I am truly sorry for your trouble and wish you only the best. As far as trouble-shooting, you seem to already know what the problem is and what it will take to fix, so this post seemed to me like a bash.. You condemn Scouts "dare to compare" advertising based on your experience with a 12 year old boat.. I have no doubts that they, like most companies have had some design flaws in their past, but I do not think they would have lasted this long and attained one of the highest customer approval ratings in the industry if these had not been addressed.. Wayne, I did do the search you suggested.. for many weeks while deciding on a boat I did little else.. I did come up with a few negative posts..on Scout and EVERY other brand I searched..but not enough to dissuade me from buying one..(yes, I am a Scout owner..not the engineer or Steve Potts ) I am sorry to hear that you have not gotten much help from Scout, but again, as your boat is 12 years old, I'm not sure that any company would respond much differently. How old was the boat before you discovered these issues? What do you expect the manufacturer to do at this point, its a little late to re-design and re-manufacture this boat, don't you think? If your purpose is to educate other boaters, please do post some pics showing the drain system, so that we may compare it to those on our boats and possibly avoid these issues you are experiencing.. Pics may also help in allowing others to offer suggestions on solving the problem.. I sincerely hope this all has a happy ending for you.
post #12 of 36
3Beard sounds like a factory rep trying tospin the problems positive
post #13 of 36
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Originally Posted by Sea Dog View Post
3Beard sounds like a factory rep trying tospin the problems positive


I'm trying to spin?!?! Lets look at the facts..first we have this statement:
" Turns out that the drain system which Scout says is high tech and " Dare to compare" in the boat is just a really poor design that won't let the water drain." .. In addition to applying current advertisizing to what we later discover is a much older boat, this is intended to lead us to believe this is a serious design flaw not a case of something breaking down over the course of time and hard use..

Then, when questioned, we get this:

" Boat is a 1995 with a 150 Merc 2 stroke. Beaware that the drain system that is hooked up to the rod holders etc can break free in rough waters and water will drain and be trapped behind the stringers"

Well yes..alot of things on a boat can work loose in 12 years in rough seas!!! If you doubt this, you have never owned a boat!

And we still have not seen a pic! ...Anyone who doesn't see this for the blatant bash that it is fooling themselves...
post #14 of 36
The guys got a legitimate gripe about a Scout boat - he has every right to bash it and the manufacturer.

BTW - how many boat manufactures install rod holder drains so that they can add a significant amount of water to the bilge?
post #15 of 36
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Originally Posted by 3Beard View Post
I'm trying to spin?!?! Lets look at the facts..first we have this statement:
" Turns out that the drain system which Scout says is high tech and " Dare to compare" in the boat is just a really poor design that won't let the water drain." .. In addition to applying current advertisizing to what we later discover is a much older boat, this is intended to lead us to believe this is a serious design flaw not a case of something breaking down over the course of time and hard use..

Then, when questioned, we get this:

" Boat is a 1995 with a 150 Merc 2 stroke. Beaware that the drain system that is hooked up to the rod holders etc can break free in rough waters and water will drain and be trapped behind the stringers"

Well yes..alot of things on a boat can work loose in 12 years in rough seas!!! If you doubt this, you have never owned a boat!

And we still have not seen a pic! ...Anyone who doesn't see this for the blatant bash that it is fooling themselves...


Why do you care if it is a blatant bash of a boat that he owns?
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