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post #1 of 20
Thread Starter 
Anyone ever try a Wavewalk Catamaran Fishing Kayak?

Very interesting concept and seaworthy design.

I am very interested in kayak fishing but I am just not comfortable sitting in that position for very long.

Wonder if there is anywhere that one could test drive or rent one to try ?




V
post #2 of 20
Have not had any experience with the model you are asking about.

As far as trying before you buy, I'm sure there are retailers in your area that
will arrange for some demo paddle sessions. Best I can suggest is to check around. There are a few members here at SOL that are in your neck of the woods who could probably hook up with you as well.

How 'bout it guys?
post #3 of 20
Thread Starter 
thanks

I have a business trip to Mass in Oct maybe I could check it out then as they do not appear to have retail dealers. I wanted to hear if anyone else had first hand experience with the wavewalker Kayak.

Can't put the link here but just put " Wavewalk Catamaran Fishing Kayak " in to your favorite search engine and you will find it. It looks so easy in their demo videos including riding waves.




V.
post #4 of 20
Thread Starter 
Well I am in Billerica MA all week so I am going to try to drive down there to Newton and try one out.

I am really surprised that no one else here has any comments on it.

The key thing for me is that you get to sit in a more natural position int e wavewalk even better than a canoe. My back aches after only 1 hour in a kayak (I know -I'm totally out of shape:-(

So I hope I can get a few hours out of work to tryo one out and I'll post the results here.




V.
post #5 of 20
Hello Voldemars.
I'm a newbie here just joined a fiew minutes ago.
I'm located in Va. and have been on the Wave Walker web site several time and have been in contact by email with the company.
I'm an older guy 63 and I'm recouping from hip surgery I had 2 weeks ago.
I have been kayak fishing for a couple of years and love it and don't want to give it up.I don't know if I can get back to the regular L sitting position in my yak and I believe if I can't this Wave Walk may be for me.
So if you get to check it out even paddle it while you are up there I hope you will post your toughts on it here.
I saw a review on another forum and this person wrote that it wasn't made very strong or thick and that it loses it's shape after a warm day's use but that it springs back over night to it's shape other than that he said it is great.
Will be looking forward to your post
post #6 of 20
That looks like the same position I am in when I peddle my hobie. I tend to bring the back up a bit when I fishing, but for moving across and type of distance I lean back and peddle hard.
post #7 of 20
Thread Starter 
Hi All,

I got out of work in Billerica MA at 12:30 on Friday and shot down to Newton MA to meet with the inventor of the Wavewalk Kayak and take it out on the Charles River for a test paddle.

The inventor and owner of Wavewalk, Yoav Rosen gave me a lot of detail on what to expect and then demonstrated the entry and exit of launching a Wavewalk - basically you just walk right in between the 2 hulls and sit down! not even getting your feet a little wet. The demonstration showed it could be paddled in a "riding" position with your legs bent and leaning a little forward, a regular sitting position and then STANDING! He showed the stability by jumping up and down and leaning side to side even when standing. Paddling while standing was possible using a 10 foot modified kayak paddle. Turning was even more impressive as he could carve a turn sharply by leaning a hull into the turn. Beaching the craft was accomplished by paddling straight for shore sitting far back in the saddle lifting the bows of the hulls then leaning hard back as it beached. Exiting was as easy as standing up and stepping out between the 2 hulls. He made it all look SO EASY .

Now it was my turn. I am 5' 10" and weigh in at about 245 so I had to widen out the PFD quite a bit before getting started. OK - he has been talking all this time mainly about how the W takes a little getting used to and that I will not feel comfortable at all when I first start. He actually stated I might feel very uncomfortable - possibly one of the worst feelings I could imagine. If he was trying to comfort me that was not working but how bad could it be - he made it all look so simple Heck, the videos on the W website show his 10 year old surfing the W in ocean waves

So anyway I get in wiggle in the saddle a bit till I think I am in the "riding position" and try to lurch forward the way I saw him enter. At this point Yoav tells me I do not have permission to launch and that we are going to do this slowly, that we have all day. Well I do not really have all day - I wanted to get home to Long Island for dinner after being away on business all week and it was starting to rain again. Well at this point he lets me move forward a foot so the main part of the hulls are floating but the stern is still on the boat ramp and I am instructed to shift my weight side to side to see how it feels. OK - not so scary, then he moves me out another foot, still at the boat ramp in less than one foot of water and again - shift my weight side to side. Now this is quite a responsive little craft and I do not have to shift much at all to really make it lean and reverse sides. This does not feel comfortable at all but I trust this guy really knows what he is doing and follow the instructions to the letter.

The next step is to move out a few feet and just float there. We were BS'ing all the time but mainly again he was telling me that it is OK - that I will get used to it quickly and will be paddling in no time. 3 minutes of just floating go by - felt like 10. OK - I can float. During this time he said not to touch the cockpit combing but I don't know why and forgot to ask. So I sat there with the paddle about chest high and then got ready to take a few strokes. A few feet out from the ramp then back. After an other 2 minutes he tells me to give it a try.

So I start taking a few strokes and it feels pretty good but each stroke causes me to get off balance and you can really feel how all of your control in in your legs. I would think this boat might not be great for someone with bad knees. Anyway - I paddled in circles off the end of the dock first to the right, then to the left. He told me NOT to lean into the turns, I was leaning all over as I paddled but not on purpose.

After a few circles he tells me to try figure 8's. and I started feeling a lot more secure. Then without even trying I noticed I was leaning into the turns and carving them out a bit. not much but it was a controlled lean for me in the one direction of the turn. I forgot how many 8's I did when Yoav tells me to go over to the other side of the river - take it easy turn and come back. I left the relative safety of the end of the boat ramp dock and proceeded to cross the Charles. IT was easy to take long strokes by pulling in the top of this long paddle and using my lower arm to guide with. The W behaved quite well in the wind and current.

By now it was really raining and I felt bad for him standing on the dock giving me all this guidance. I did not really care that it was raining - I was really having fun now. But since it was going to be a long ride home I figured it was time to wrap up and get on the road. I beached the W just as easy as he did and stepped out on to dray land, well relatively dry seeing it was really raining hard now but I did not step in to the river as I exited. I did not try to stand up during this trial run. All told, I was on the water for 18 minutes.

The base model weighs about 50 pounds and he estimates another 3 lbs for the extra flotation foam they add. Not too heavy and he hoisted up on the roof of his blazer with no problem. It sat on the roof rack upside down that was covered with foam. I asked about how the plastic would fair in the heat and he indicated that it will soften to some degree and care should be taken not to leave it out on the roof of a dark colored vehicle in the sun too long. But other than that there would be no problem.

Bottom line is that this is a very stable craft that does have a learning curve not unlike that of learning to ride a bike. But he assures me once I get a few hours under my belt that standing will come easily. It was very comfortable once I got over the initial tension in my legs. There is a lot of room in the hulls for storage and it can be outfitted with 2, 4 or 6 rod holders.

I am seriously considering getting 2 of these to be able to go out not only fishing but with my kids as well. Now if I can only convince "the boss!"

Take a look a the website and see what other people have done to set them up to fish - depth finders, trolling motors, storage, anchors etc. Any questions give Yoav a call or an e-mail, he is a very friendly guy.




V.
post #8 of 20
I agree with Voldemars. I went through the same exercise with Yoav but mine took about two hours. I am not a kayak fisherman but want to get into it and felt that this would be an interesting boat to try. Since there's no way to rent one of these to test it out for a few hours, I met Yoav and he took me down to the Charles River in Newton. I am 5"10, 195 lbs. At first, the W feels tippy but not any worse than some touring yaks I've paddled. A lot of that has to do with the high center of gravity. The W offers you a lot more range of motion than a SINK or SOT so you need to get used to how small shifts in your weight translate to the boat. One of the keys to this boat is to RELAX and let your weight sink into your center. (In Tai Chi we call this your dan tien).

After a few minutes on the water in fairly windy conditions I was feeling a lot more comfortable and probably paddled for a total of 20-25 minutes. At the end of the demo he had me try standing while he held the front of the boat steady. I am not yet ready for prime time.

I am doing a lot of research in advance of buying a yak in the spring. Yoav said that he'll let me take the boat again out for an afternoon to get a true feel for it. I've pretty much ruled out SOTs for a variety of reasons. The Pungos are still an option but when I compare all features and the versatility, the W remains at the top of my list.

I would recommend that everyone spend time on the wavewalk website. There is a ton (and I mean a TON) of really good information, both technical and practical. Yoav's a VERY nice guy and will talk your ears off for hours if you let him.
post #9 of 20
they're offering a new model now that's bigger and wider, and more stable than the small, older one you guys had tested and reviewed here.
dave
post #10 of 20
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Originally Posted by davidz View Post
they're offering a new model now that's bigger and wider, and more stable than the small, older one you guys had tested and reviewed here.

dave



Feel free to review it here
post #11 of 20
If you're looking for something comfortable and "stand-in-able", I just purchased a Native Ultimate 12 and I dig it so far. Don't get the Angler package though. Install the anchor trolley yourself and save $150. The seat is super comfortable also.

-Jamie
post #12 of 20
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Originally Posted by Voldemars View Post
Anyone ever try a Wavewalk Catamaran Fishing Kayak?

Very interesting concept and seaworthy design.

I am very interested in kayak fishing but I am just not comfortable sitting in that position for very long.

Wonder if there is anywhere that one could test drive or rent one to try ?



V


would come down to preferance,
option to throw a little electric motor on it is nice,
lots of rigging options
something to consider is space,
can get a small bass/jon boat, that would be same length,
yet give you all 10' to sit, store, fish from,
yet catamaran style kayak looks faster and easier to paddle than flatbottom boat, less resistance?
I have both, 9' kayak,
and 9' bass boat,
like them both for different reasons,
post #13 of 20
Saw a couple U-tube vids, and wondered what these were. Had a pretty seasoned, older type fellow, fishing bridges in Florida. Very nice from the vids....

Thanks for getting the info on here to hook up to the site! Very impressed, to say the least. Had been wanting to try Yak fishing, but this just seems to have so many advantages over a standard Yak. A few disadvantages as well, but so goes the territory.

You guys that met up, or did a test run... where abouts is this possible???

Think one of the things that concerns me the most is: "Beware of the Sun" Well something to look into at least

Thanks for any help/or resources...
post #14 of 20
I've used a Wavewalk for two seasons of rough and tumble fishing on bays and inlets in Long Island -- New York.

I use it mainly to get to where I want to fish then jump out in 2-3' of water and do my thing. Jump back in go somewhere else. Always in a wetsuit. Once you get the craft's balance you can really throw yourself around. My absolute favorite is 'run and gun' nightime bluefish blitzes in the marshes . ..

Can stand up and snag bunker and throw a cast net. Can stand up and pole in shallow water. No worry about rough water/wind/wakes

It can haul a tremendous amount of gear, but I keep it down to a small anchor, tackle bag and one pole and a white stern light.

Have a custom cart made by paddlecart with arms that extend up inside the 'V' of the hull which enable me to pull it over rough terrain . . . or down the street in Queens (which some consider rough terrain, too) . . .
post #15 of 20
Lolopop, nice reply on a 2 yr old thread. Sounds like a good time, combat style.
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