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Crippled Alewife spoon?

post #1 of 14
Thread Starter 
Has anyone ever fished it? I heard the 11/0 size was designed to mimic a Blueback Herring and it is excellent during the Spring migration, sometimes outfishing any other lure..... Anyone ever have any luck with the Crippled Alewife spoon during the Spring herring run?

Did maybe the person who wrote the book get confused with the Crippled Herring, and there is no Crippled Alewife? Didn't get many results in google search......



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post #2 of 14
A lot of guys like them better than hopkins, but I personally don't throw much metal. I have fished them, but nothing but blues and lots of flounder.
post #3 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thats basically what I'm targeting besides stripers of course.....do you mean fluke when you say flounder?


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post #4 of 14
I have used the big (10 or 12 inch) crippled alewife spoons while wire line trolling off the south shore of Long Island during the late fall. I usually fished it along with the big reliable bunker spoons. Both catch fish, some very large ones at that.
The crippled alewife often caught better than the bunker spoons. I'm unsure however what size 11/0 would be. They are solid fish catchers in the biggest size for sure, don't see why the smaller ones won't work in the spring.
As for flounder... almost anytime someone from south of the NYC says flounder, they are likely talking about what we yankees call fluke. Get anywhere south of the Mason Dixon line and you're almost guaranteed it's a fluke or the guy talking is a northerner, winter flounder are seldom if ever seen down there.

[This message has been edited by SrFSHR (edited 03-01-2003).]
post #5 of 14
Thread Starter 
He's from NJ.
Do fluke like Kastmasters? If so, in what size range, 1/2 oz?
You see, I'm looking for an alternative so I have something to deal with when I find out there arent any herring left in my livewell or there all dead. Having a 17' boat, my livewell is pretty small, I use an igloo cooler, it has excellent aereation....something for a very large livewell, its just as big as maybe 1 and a half desktop computers long. How many herring can fit comfortably? 10? When they die, will the fresh dead chunks of herring work better than lures meant to imatate herring, like the spoon mentioned above?
Thanks for the help


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post #6 of 14
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Originally posted by SeaMaster711:
do you mean fluke when you say flounder?


Yeah, Fluke. I guess its a south jersey thing
post #7 of 14
I find them prime bait in the spring. Not the size these guys are using, but I'm in Va. The 6 inch works great for me (boat trolling), in our rivers "Everything" is coming upriver, and everything eats them. If you're fishing upriver/fall line situations, don't for get your jigs and Bombers!
post #8 of 14
Fluke will take a Castmaster but you'll have to be in very shallow water. Castmasters don't run very deep when you are moving them fast enough to get that side to side swing. I'd say they will only run a foot or 2 deep.
Not likely a fluke in 7 - 8 foot of water or more will come up to a castmaster 5 or 6 feet over their heads.
post #9 of 14
Thread Starter 
What if I reel it really quickly, kind of jerk it up, then let it settle to the bottom and do that again until it's retrieved....will the fluke like that?


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post #10 of 14
I think you'd be better off with a nice bucktail tied with alot of hair so it gives a fatter profile (I like Andrus) to imitate small herring. It's gotta have a lot of hair though, those spro bucks are great spearing and thin bait fakes, but to you need a lot of hair to look like a herring or peanut. Use as heavy a buck as you need to stay tight to the bottom. Drift or cast and bounce it off the bottom from time to time, or just drift and drag if you've got any current. You've got to be within a foot or less of the bottom to get fluke to hit consistently. Tip the buck with a strip if fresh squid and you're in business. It might not catch like a live herring bait, but it will probably work better than yanking a tin off the bottom.
post #11 of 14
Thread Starter 
Do live herring work on Fluke or only stripers?


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"Silver Bullet"
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post #12 of 14
Maybe smallish ones unless your looking for real LARGE flounder. Otherwise I'd say go with herring strips for flounder, maybe on a bucktail if you so desire, or just drifted on a 3-way rig.
post #13 of 14
Fluke will eat herring and big ones at that (a 3 pound fluke will eat a 6 / 7" herring with no problems).
Problem is herring are a cool water fish and fluke a warm water fish so getting the together in the same place may be a problem.
Around here (south shore long island) we sometimes have 3 or 4 inch herring around into June. When that happens fluke, stripers and especially weakfish are all over them.
When they aren't around in the spring it seems like the weakfishing suffers. Hope they show this year.
post #14 of 14
Crippled Alewifes are a "wobble" spoon; the larger ones (size 9/0, 11/0, & 13/0) commonly used to troll for rockfish (these are the size of a bunker or a smaller herring).

Crippled Herrings are jigging spoons (or for casting). They are generically called "knife blade" spoons... shaped like the description, heavy for their size. This makes them ideal for jigging or casting.

If your looking to jig for flounder (I'm below the Mason Dixon- Fluke to our Northern friends), look for "silver or chrome bullet" jigs, common up your way. Essentially a "ball jig" with a swing hook dressed in bucktail. The round head profile allows one to drag and bounce (jig) along the bottom easily.

If your looking to cast or jig for rock (stripers), look for Crippled Herrings.
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