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Beach replineshment, the good, the bad, the ugly

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IMO.....sooner or later someone with some brains will put a halt to the $$$$ funding and do it right...Once....or maybe the south end will disappear.

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44 mins ago, Mr. Bigdeal said:

IMO.....sooner or later someone with some brains will put a halt to the $$$$ funding and do it right...Once....or maybe the south end will disappear.

I disagree. We've had this same thought process for the past 25+ years and were still burried above are heads with silt and pumped sand. IMO we need to assess each party and specimen that is affected by the sand pumping. Off the top of my head: Fisherman, Surfers, people Driving on the beach, boaters (sandy hook), shell fish and therefor the food chain up to striped bass, dolphins, and whales.

 

The list could be 10 pages long with a desciption of how each is affected.

 

Then we need to exploit the economical impact of the pumping. Sure there are some benefits such as creating jobs, BUT we can supplement by adding jetties in the mean time.

 

Last but not least, the Squeaky wheel gets the oil. If we dont complain to the right people than we will not be heard.

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Well, it finally gets to a point where someone attention is drawn to this Fail either by an incident caused by weather or by man....now they are considering stone wave walls ...one built at the southern tip of LBI and another stretching from NY to NJ with a gate that will open and close.....IMO causing the back bay to become a cesspool....horrible....ACOE design.

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Holgate was a whole other entity when I was growing up in the 70's into the 80's . More natural area- a lot less homes- late 80's- 90's housing boom where quite frankly, they should never have had the approval to build. Now you have a large (for the south end) population questioning what the government was going to do to keep their houses safe from storms. 

 

This is where we are now- Yep follow the money but note it starts from the owners with a home with a view. 

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2 hours ago, Dave S said:

 

 

This is where we are now- Yep follow the money but note it starts from the owners with a home with a view. 

It does not start with the homeowners with a view, it is all about tourism in NJ which brings in over $44 BILLION per year, that is where you should follow the money

 

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True. 

 

Ownership and rentals go hand in hand. 

 

When a home on the island is asking $6K for  a week in June  you kind of have to sit back and question why doesnt the cost of the replenishment come out of that money instead of every tax payer's pocket. 

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10 hours ago, Dave S said:

True. 

 

Ownership and rentals go hand in hand. 

 

When a home on the island is asking $6K for  a week in June  you kind of have to sit back and question why doesnt the cost of the replenishment come out of that money instead of every tax payer's pocket. 

Exactly !

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10 hours ago, RU fishin' said:

It does not start with the homeowners with a view, it is all about tourism in NJ which brings in over $44 BILLION per year, that is where you should follow the money

 

Actually no it's not. 

Out of the mouth of an ACOE engineer to me in Frank Pallones parking lot after one of the meeting to save the jetties.

I asked why are they building ramps that send the water inland. If they wanted to protect infrastructure they would be putting in breakwaters and dunes.

His reply, and Jim Hill was standing next to me and can vouch.... "Replenishment has nothing to do with protecting infrastructure. It's about protecting land mass. You know, the global warming thing"

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20 hours ago, RU fishin' said:

It does not start with the homeowners with a view, it is all about tourism in NJ which brings in over $44 BILLION per year, that is where you should follow the money

 

 Just how much tourism is in Spring Lake, Deal, MB and some of the more exclusive areas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, bunker86 said:

 Just how much tourism is in Spring Lake, Deal, MB and some of the more exclusive areas?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Really, tourism involves actually letting people ON your beach. The three towns you mentioned really aren't too bad, with available free parking and easy access. Plenty of other places where it is a lot more difficult to get to the water without some kind of difficulty. Given that it's mostly Federal money buying the sand, shouldn't any American have access to walk on it?

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