tomkaz

"Hurricane Crossfire", Meanings and Implications

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Nunes is forcing out information. 

Russian defendant is going to force discovery.

Trump's lawyers pushing Mueller to tie things up.

DoJ IG ready to report his findings. 

 

So so what does that get us? Leaks from inside the DoJ/FBI intended to weaken the "WTF" moments as Nunes pushes for more sunlight and the IG gets ready to report all. 

 

 

Thread by @KimStrassel:
 

1. So a few important points on that new NYT "Hurricane Crossfire" piece. A story that, BTW, all of us following this knew had to be coming. This is DOJ/FBI leakers' attempt to get in front of the facts Nunes is forcing out, to make it not sound so bad. Don't buy it. It's bad.

 

2. Biggest takeaway: Govt "sources" admit that, indeed, the Obama DOJ and FBI spied on the Trump campaign. Spied. (Tho NYT kindly calls spy an "informant.") NYT slips in confirmation far down in story, and makes it out like it isn't a big deal. It is a very big deal.

 

3. In self-serving desire to get a sympathetic story about its actions, DOJ/FBI leakers are willing to provide yet more details about that "top secret" source (namely, that spying was aimed at Page/Papadopoulos)--making all more likely/certain source will be outed. That's on them

 

4. DOJ/FBI (and its leakers) have shredded what little credibility they have in claiming they cannot comply with subpoena. They are willing to provide details to friendly media, but not Congress? Willing to risk very source they claim to need to protect?

 

5. Back in Dec., NYT assured us it was the Papadopoulos-Downer convo that inspired FBI to launch official counterintelligence operation on July 31, 2016. Which was convenient, since it diminished the role of the dossier. However . . .

 

6. Now NYT tells us FBI didn't debrief downer until August 2nd. And Nunes says no "official intelligence" from allies was delivered to FBI about that convo prior to July 31. So how did FBI get Downer details? (Political actors?) And what really did inspire the CI investigation?

 

7. As for whether to believe line that FBI operated soberly/carefully/judiciously in 2016, a main source for this judgment is, um . . .uh . . . Sally Yates. Who was in middle of it all. A bit like asking Putin to reassure that Russia didn't meddle in our election.

 

8. On that, if u r wondering who narrated this story, note paragraphs that assure everybody that hardly anybody in DOJ knew about probe. Oh, and Comey also was given few details. Nobody knew nothin'! (Cuz when u require whole story saying u behaved, it means u know you didn't.)

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Have you read the NYT piece yourself?

 

Also, your going to pick the side Nunes is on? Lol.

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Posted (edited)

Yes.... and yes. 

 

BTW, it's "you're".

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Nunez is a political tool 2x as bad as Pocahontas, Maxine  and Pelosi all wrapped up in one. 

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Nunes will be be the only one to get re-elected. 

 

Those other three are destined to the glue factory. 

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12 mins ago, The Dude said:

Have you read the NYT piece yourself?

 

Also, your going to pick the side Nunes is on? Lol.

I am the second person you’ve asked about reading the NYT report. Why do you ask? My point is about the reason for the leaks and the timing. This is a PR campaign, meant to try to provide the Media with counter-points to the coming IG report. A great defense is a strong offense or some such thing, 

 

Point is, DoJ/FBI leakers are trying to neutralize a scathing report coming from their own inspector general. 

 

And yes, I have read it. 

 

You wanna comment on the discrepancies in the timing around the Aussie? 

 

Or the disclosure of a plant inside the Trump organization? 

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Where was a plant disclosed in the piece?

 

A two day discrepancy in an evolving story seems like nothing more than grasping at straws.

 

The FBI actions were always in Trump’s favor. The deep state narrative is quickly collapsing.

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25 mins ago, The Dude said:

Have you read the NYT piece yourself?

 

Also, your going to pick the side Nunes is on? Lol.

Yes and Yes

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Spying and forcing a special counsel because the Deep State Corruption was going to be exposed is not working in Trumps Favor, lol

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4 mins ago, The Dude said:

Where was a plant disclosed in the piece?

 

A two day discrepancy in an evolving story seems like nothing more than grasping at straws.

 

The FBI actions were always in Trump’s favor. The deep state narrative is quickly collapsing.

NYT:

 

The F.B.I. obtained phone records and other documents using national security letters — a secret type of subpoena — officials said. And at least one government informant met several times with Mr. Page and Mr. Papadopoulos, current and former officials said. That has become a politically contentious point, with Mr. Trump’s allies questioning whether the F.B.I. was spying on the Trump campaign or trying to entrap campaign officials.

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I guess he didn't read it Tom.... Who'da thunk it? 

 

and he questions us :laugh: 

 

What a maroon!  

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I forgot that he told us he "skims the first few lines and paragraphs" (paraphrased)  and can tell everything from that. 

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