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Finally some sunny days to start things up again.  The Cape had only a half day yesterday, plus today's probably full day, making it a day and a half.  Mondays full sun might count for something, even though it was cancelled out by Tuesdays rain and clouds, I might count it for another half day just in case, when in doubt, check it out, usually 2 days needed, but that could include one full and 2 half days.  Problem here is the high tide is really late at 9:30.  So I might be fishing in the dark.  RI has a high at 6:30, so there it is prime time, and with sun on Friday and Saturday, it is almost a guarantee there will be something happening somewhere.   

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And not just anywhere, the shallow muddy backwaters have already happened, and the larger and deeper bodies of water will happen later during the next tide cycle during late May and early June.  So you will need to look in specific in between locations, and avoid areas closer to the influx of colder water as well.  It can get specific and complicated.  Sometimes it is easy but rarely, and you can spend a lot of outings finding nothing, myself included.  If you enjoy the mystery and challenge, then it might be for you? 

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Managed to find a 1-hour mini hatch on Saturday evening that started at 6:45.  The 3 factors were in alignment, with a 7 pm high tide, 3-1/2 days of sun, and a surface water temp of 70 degrees.  This took place in a medium to deep backwater (harbor/salt pond or bay), the furthest removed location from the influx of colder ocean water.  This has been a lousy year so far, but slightly better than my worst year, as I actually caught a decent number of fish.  The next few sunny days coinciding with a new tide cycle will last to about the new moon in mid-June, which should aid in stimulating the larger and deeper bodies of water.  I am hoping to pull off a couple more outings to distance myself from the skunk. 

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Worm Hatch #5:  Dug deep into my notes to figure out where to look for yesterday's outings, and came up with 2 locations based on the time of the early 2pm high tide.   With Wednesday  being the 2nd day of blazing sun, the water  temp was 72 degrees.  However, I did not find anything there, so that led me to believe that they already happened.  The sun what little we have have seen of it has been heating these locations up quickly, causing them to happen sooner, and the sun has also been out of sync with day time tides during the mid-May tide cycle. I missed 4 locations because they either heated up sooner than expected, or happened on night tides.  So I changed plans for my next location, and went to a third site that usually starts a few days later, and found the hatch just beginning at 6 pm.  This harbor location is usually a consistently reliable spot, and could be considered a larger body of water, and so was kick-started the day after the full moon.  This hatch should last a couple more days if the sunny weather continues and spreads to the lower end of the harbor.  While wading next to a bridge, I caught a dozen stripers and 2 shad.  If the weather goes cloudy and rainy, I still expect to find some mini hatches like  I did last year. 

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5/31, Worm Hatch #6:  Thursday evening turned out successful thanks to the 3rd day of sun.  I launched my kayak at the harbor location, and headed to the southwest corner where I have had luck in the past beginning at 6 pm.  At 6:15, stripers began swirling in a small concentrated area, there must be a mud hole there that the worms like, as it was the same exact spot that went off 2 years ago.  So I anchored upwind of the spot to aid in casting with the wind.  I did not see any worms until 45 minutes had gone by, but the swirls were unmistakable, and the bass attacked my floating worm fly, and I was able to catch and release 14 fish.  I am sure the bass were gobbling up the worms as soon as they appeared.  So far, I have not seen any major hatches anyway, just small to medium, and a mini hatch.  With today’s weather, I don’t think I will risk launching the kayak again at the same location.  The areas I have checked lately have all been 72 degrees, so even if the temp drops 4 degrees there might be at least some mini hatches.  So this evening I will probably check some areas closer to home for future intel, that I can just use waders if I find anything.  I will give it one more week and end my worm season for this year. 

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This is awesome! Great information and well done on getting them on the worm hatch!

 

Keep it coming.:howdy:

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7 hours ago, isleomaniac said:

5/31, Worm Hatch #6:  Thursday evening turned out successful thanks to the 3rd day of sun.  I launched my kayak at the harbor location, and headed to the southwest corner where I have had luck in the past beginning at 6 pm.  At 6:15, stripers began swirling in a small concentrated area, there must be a mud hole there that the worms like, as it was the same exact spot that went off 2 years ago.  So I anchored upwind of the spot to aid in casting with the wind.  I did not see any worms until 45 minutes had gone by, but the swirls were unmistakable, and the bass attacked my floating worm fly, and I was able to catch and release 14 fish.  I am sure the bass were gobbling up the worms as soon as they appeared.  So far, I have not seen any major hatches anyway, just small to medium, and a mini hatch.  With today’s weather, I don’t think I will risk launching the kayak again at the same location.  The areas I have checked lately have all been 72 degrees, so even if the temp drops 4 degrees there might be at least some mini hatches.  So this evening I will probably check some areas closer to home for future intel, that I can just use waders if I find anything.  I will give it one more week and end my worm season for this year. 

 

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You ought to write a book on worm hatches. I would buy it! 

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Well, you can buy it easily, on Amazon.  See the title at the top left of my post.  It chronicles all (85) of my outings since 2010, and more.  Available locally at Bears Den.

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2 hours ago, MakoMike said:

Had them all around the boat at the top of the great salt pond on Friday.

Salt Pond is always a little later than Ninigret!

Nice to see you around again.

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On 6/2/2018 at 7:52 AM, isleomaniac said:

Well, you can buy it easily, on Amazon.  See the title at the top left of my post.  It chronicles all (85) of my outings since 2010, and more.  Available locally at Bears Den.

LOL! All righty!

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Just a heads up, today's (Friday) full day of sun puts us just over the minimum required of 2 days of sun to stimulate a hatch at 2-1/2.  The late evening high tides combined with this sunny stretch will be prime time, and especially so leading up to the new moon on Wednesday for the larger and deeper bodies of water. 

 

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Well, so far, the 6 hatches that I have found are below my average of 10 per year.  I hope others are doing better?  Here is what I have had to go through to find those 6 since May 1.  During the 26 days of looking, I have visited 74 locations, with a few days searching as many as 8 different bodies of water.  The sunny stretch leading up to the new moon on Wednesday 6/13 kept getting interrupted by cloudy days.   For my last location, my one record from 2011, told me that I would need a stretch of 3-4 sunny days in a row.  I usually end my season here and move on to other things, but might venture out to check on things during the next tide cycle for my area starting on Friday 6/15.  By contrast, during my best year in 2014, out of 44 days of looking, I found 28 hatches.  During this season, the weather with all the factors and variables were all near perfect in alignment. 

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