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29 mins ago, Livefreeordie said:

NY is writing a state bill making it possible to override current double jeopardy laws, in order to ensure those in the Trump Cabal can be brought to justice, despite Trump waving pardons around

Great.  More laws against the Party you don't like.  Very American.

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Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein told President Donald Trump last week that he isn’t a target of any part of Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation, according to two people familiar with the matter.

 
 

Rosenstein, who brought up the Mueller probe himself, offered the assurance during a meeting with Trump at the White House last Thursday, a development that helped tamp down the president’s desire to remove Rosenstein or Mueller, the people said.

 
 

After the meeting, Trump told some of his closest advisers that it’s not the right time to remove either man since he’s not a target of the probe. One person said Trump doesn’t want to take any action that would drag out the investigation.

 

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Don't you fools ever get tired of being duped?

 

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:shrug:

 

It's all above my paygrade.

 

I still think back to that "FBI Interview" Mueller had with Trump days previous to being hired for the investigation. Mueller had already served 12 years in that position when 10 is the allowed maximum. Obama had to get Congressional approval to keep him on for the extra 2. 

Mueller could not be hired for that position. 

 

Mueller may very well be working for Trump...

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1 hour ago, yogiiiboy said:

Let me ask you J.........Then why the f**K is this thing still going on?  WHY the f**k did Rosenstein allow the Cohen raid?

 

I just don't trust Rosenstein..........i don't trust him one bit !!!

 

 

of course you shouldn't trust Rosenstien, he's handpicked by Trump.

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2 hours ago, yogiiiboy said:

Let me ask you J.........Then why the f**K is this thing still going on?  WHY the f**k did Rosenstein allow the Cohen raid?

 

I just don't trust Rosenstein..........i don't trust him one bit !!!

 

 

1) Not being a "target" does not mean one is not a "subject of an investigation. And the transition from subject to target can happen fast. 

 

2) Making Trump think he's not a target lowers his desire to fire either of them, sure. But it can also give him a false sense of ease which might lead him to an interview with Mueller. 

 

3) IG report is coming, need Trump to have fewer reasons to tweet about RR and RM. 

 

4) Cohen was raided by NY region federal attorney, not Mueller. Cohen could have charges brought by DA outside of Mueller probe which does not make RR statement meaningful.

 

5) See what NYS AG is doing, who do you think is most likely to get charged in NYS? 

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- Victor Davis Hanson 

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1 hour ago, Livefreeordie said:

of course you shouldn't trust Rosenstien, he's handpicked by Trump.

Trump approves the next in line and that is "handpicked"? 

 

JFK had a handpicked AG in RFK, that’s handpicked. Choosing a guy you’ve never heard of, not so much. 

“No nation in history has survived once its borders were destroyed, once its citizenship was rendered no different from mere residence, and once its neighbors with impunity undermined its sovereignty.”

- Victor Davis Hanson 

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Any law to undo restrictions on double jeopardy will promptly collide with due process.  If this is happening, it's got to be Cuomo currying favor with the left wing of the Democratic Party (exactly as Cynthia Nixon has described).  Cuomo wants to be nominated for President so badly he's drooling, but there are a lot of disaffected Democrats who don't like him, and his willingness to trade off ethical reforms in favor of this-or-that budget exercise. 

 

Tomkaz is right on one thing. Rosenstein's telling the President that he's not a target of the Cohen investigation doesn't mean that much. First, as Tomkaz notes, that can change very quickly. Second, in the course of the prosecution of Cohen for criminal charges, it's quite possible that things will spill out of Cohen's office that are not criminal, but which are embarrassing to the President. 

 

Would anyone be surprised if Cohen had prepared confidentiality agreements, and paid out money, to multiple women?  Not just Stormy?  Or if he'd been involved in the catch-and-kill of multiple stories about the President's sex life, via the National Inquirer, or other publications?  Or if the President has had to pay for a few abortions, as with the RNC executive whose affair Cohen handled?  Or if the President has had to create trust funds for the support of one or more unacknowledged children? Nothing illegal in any of that, but there's some potential for embarrassment. 

 

The extent to which the President consults with Sean Hannity is discussed in today's NYT.  They're on the phone every day, sometimes multiple times a day. Cohen may have a role in coordinating "news" between the White House and Fox, or other news organizations, too.  Again: nothing illegal, but something with the potential for embarrassment. 

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3 hours ago, J said:

:shrug:

 

It's all above my paygrade.

 

I still think back to that "FBI Interview" Mueller had with Trump days previous to being hired for the investigation. Mueller had already served 12 years in that position when 10 is the allowed maximum. Obama had to get Congressional approval to keep him on for the extra 2. 

Mueller could not be hired for that position. 

 

Mueller may very well be working for Trump...

I just read about this one lately.  The theory is that Mueller is secretly preparing cases against Obama, Lynch, Hillary, the usual list of favorite Republican hates, and that's why he hasn't been fired.  

 

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18 mins ago, BrianBM said:

Any law to undo restrictions on double jeopardy will promptly collide with due process.  If this is happening, it's got to be Cuomo currying favor with the left wing of the Democratic Party (exactly as Cynthia Nixon has described).  Cuomo wants to be nominated for President so badly he's drooling, but there are a lot of disaffected Democrats who don't like him, and his willingness to trade off ethical reforms in favor of this-or-that budget exercise. 

 

Tomkaz is right on one thing. Rosenstein's telling the President that he's not a target of the Cohen investigation doesn't mean that much. First, as Tomkaz notes, that can change very quickly. Second, in the course of the prosecution of Cohen for criminal charges, it's quite possible that things will spill out of Cohen's office that are not criminal, but which are embarrassing to the President. 

 

Would anyone be surprised if Cohen had prepared confidentiality agreements, and paid out money, to multiple women?  Not just Stormy?  Or if he'd been involved in the catch-and-kill of multiple stories about the President's sex life, via the National Inquirer, or other publications?  Or if the President has had to pay for a few abortions, as with the RNC executive whose affair Cohen handled?  Or if the President has had to create trust funds for the support of one or more unacknowledged children? Nothing illegal in any of that, but there's some potential for embarrassment. 

 

The extent to which the President consults with Sean Hannity is discussed in today's NYT.  They're on the phone every day, sometimes multiple times a day. Cohen may have a role in coordinating "news" between the White House and Fox, or other news organizations, too.  Again: nothing illegal, but something with the potential for embarrassment. 

I think that Trump is probably beyond the point where he is real worried about "embarrassment".  With regard to Cohen, there is no need for him to coordinate anything with Hannity... as you just noted Trump talks directly with Hannity daily, as does Jay Sekulo.

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