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Looks like toll roads are coming back to CT

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40 mins ago, Ba Ba Buoy said:

 

Seems like a lot of reaching there. Are the funding of sidewalks considered subsidies for footwear too? Just think of the logical conclusion of denying funding to roads, education, or even social security. Folks would start moving to North Korea or Somalia to improve the quality of life. 

People can still walk without sidewalks. They cannot drive (i.e. buy cars, consume gasoline) without roads.

 

The problem is that folks don't understand that if the government didn't build the roads (and tax you for them) then SOMEONE would have....perhaps the auto companies, perhaps the gasoline companies, perhaps the auto parts makers, perhaps the repair shops, perhaps the tire manufacturers,perhaps the trucking and  freight transportation industries, perhaps any combination of them in association, or perhaps an entirely new industry that doesn't currently exist.........do you REALLY think that those people would let billions (no trillions or more) of dollars slip away because of the lack of roads? Oh sure, if they can stick the taxpayer for them via the government, they will, but if that had not happened, do you REALLY think we would still all be riding horses? :squid::laugh:

 

Ya gotta get out of the brainwashed government box, man.........

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5 mins ago, Steve in Mass said:

People can still walk without sidewalks. They cannot drive (i.e. buy cars, consume gasoline) without roads.

 

The problem is that folks don't understand that if the government didn't build the roads (and tax you for them) then SOMEONE would have....perhaps the auto companies, perhaps the gasoline companies, perhaps the auto parts makers, perhaps the repair shops, perhaps the tire manufacturers,perhaps the trucking and  freight transportation industries, perhaps any combination of them in association, or perhaps an entirely new industry that doesn't currently exist.........do you REALLY think that those people would let billions (no trillions or more) of dollars slip away because of the lack of roads? Oh sure, if they can stick the taxpayer for them via the government, they will, but if that had not happened, do you REALLY think we would still all be riding horses? :squid::laugh:

 

Ya gotta get out of the brainwashed government box, man.........

I think you are missing the point down here.

We slaves in CT are already twice taxed on gasoline and that money has been diverted into the general fund instead of going to roads, bridges, and transportation infrastructure repair and building.

 

The state is functionally bankrupt and all the moron (liberal Democrat) politicians in Hartford do is look for new revenue streams.

40 years of locked Democrat control of the legislature has broken the fiscal back of this state.

 

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30 mins ago, Gotcow? said:

We slaves in CT are already twice taxed on gasoline and that money has been diverted into the general fund instead of going to roads, bridges, and transportation infrastructure repair and building.

I know this quite well, isn't much different in Massachusetts, or NJ or New York, or most other places.

 

The point you seem to be missing is the exact point you made.....the users are not getting what they paid for, and the non-users aren't getting what they paid for because they don't use it or want it. At least with tolls that o directly back into the road you are driving on, you are getting what you paid for. But both you and I know that won't happen with the tolls either, because guess who is running it? THAT is my EXACT point.

 

The Chesapeake Bay Bridge Tunnel has a toll.....and it was built with tolls (no taxpayer money), and since that was paid for, every cent goes to upkeep of the tunnel...a number of years ago they added another causeway, and it cost the taxpayers exactly zero, as that was paid for by the tolls.

 

This is how it is supposed to work, or at least as a start, as even that is a quasi-government endeavor.

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BTW....the building of that causeway took them no more than 3 years, over water, some 16+ miles, with thousands of pilings needing to be sunk. 

 

How long would that take if the taxpayers are paying directly for it? Shoot, it takes them 10 years to reconstruct 2 miles of highway on land..... :squid:

 

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