Capt Randy Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Renter removed the hand rail and filled up holes then painted over them. Found a stud at top of stairs to attach to but when I found another "stud" further down stairs drill will not penetrate it to get a lag bolt into it. Townhouse with fireproof walls, any idea what they would use for studs that I cannot drill into? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech Posted January 27, 2018 Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 You may be on screw head or it may be block. A cobalt bit or a good sheet metal screw may poke through any metal. You could raise or lower it slightly, or drill in place on a slight angle. Good luck Tis better to remain silent and thought the fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Randy Posted January 27, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 27, 2018 Cheech, will try as you suggested. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightfighter Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 Or you could find the studs, attach a block to the stud on the wall, then attach handrail to the block. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ccb Posted January 28, 2018 Report Share Posted January 28, 2018 (edited) No pipes in the wall where your drilling ? Check the wall again. look at different angles and you may see where he filled in the hole. If your using the old hand rail check the bottom and see where the brackets were before. Also are you at the old height? I say look good for the old holes because most guys don't fill the old holes perfect? They always leave a dimple, because the plaster or caulking shrinks. Edited January 28, 2018 by ccb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dena Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Place a flash light along the darkened wall so the light is as close to parallel to the wall as can be, and the screw hole patches will pop out. The raking angle will cast shadows on every imperfection. Material abundance without character is the path of destruction. -Thomas JeffersonThere are two ways to be fooled. One is to believe what isn't true; the other is to refuse to believe what is true. -Soren Kierkegaard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Randy Posted January 29, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 Will use a flashlight to try to locate original hole location, thanks for tip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fluke07 Posted January 29, 2018 Report Share Posted January 29, 2018 IF it's a 'firewall' could very well be furred out on masonry block wall.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightfighter Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Could have also hit a conduit nail plate.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Randy Posted January 30, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Each time I insert either a nail or drill bit it seems to hit some sort of concrete surface. Up and down the line I found with stud finder it hits hard surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chitala383 Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 Is it drywall? If so, why not cut a small hole and see what's behind it? Drywall is easy enough to patch back up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricJ Posted January 30, 2018 Report Share Posted January 30, 2018 There are anchors now that have a rating greater than 100lbs. I installed a shelf to hold a beverage cooler. One of the brackets is screwed into a stud but the other is using one of those anchors that is just in the drywall. The cooler is 50lbs empty sitting on it. Now loaded with liquid beverages and it is rock solid. You are just a dirty, smelly fisherman. If a hot girl is making eye contact with you, she is probably a hooker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Randy Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 EricJ, going to look into those today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheech Posted January 31, 2018 Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 A masonry bit even in a regular drill will tell you if its block. Whats on the othet side of the wall? Tis better to remain silent and thought the fool, than to speak and remove all doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capt Randy Posted January 31, 2018 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2018 Another home's living room. So I don't want to go too far through. Hoes were built 1979 and have no idea how thick walls actually are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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