Drew C.

Mass to end commercial bass fishing?

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6 mins ago, pakalolo said:

The call for gamefish status is nothing more than greedy sports parroting the Stripers Forever RESOURCE GRAB mantra. They want all the fish for themselves to play with at the expense of hard working fishermen and those who rely on them to provide their access to the resource.

it times to stop these arguments.

 

hard working commercial fishermen - 'ol bootstraps... please give me a break already. plenty of people work hard. so that makes them like everyone else. they're supposed to get some sort of credit for working hard?

 

rely on them to provide access to the resource - a few ways to look at this. but the best way, please tell me how gamefish status takes away access to the resource? our hero above, the hard working commercial fisherman will still have access to the resource he just won't be able to profit off the sale of that resource. he can still participate in the fishery, he will just have to do it recreationally. 

 

it's time to start valuing our limited public resources as something more than a pile of fish that the privileged and disproportionate few profit from. 

 

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If the trend continues the point will become mute.

There simply won't be many fish left to catch and that will solve he rec and the comm debate.

 

And after that if there is anything left of the biomass we may be able to bring it back one more time.

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49 mins ago, Drew C. said:

it times to stop these arguments.

 

hard working commercial fishermen - 'ol bootstraps... please give me a break already. plenty of people work hard. so that makes them like everyone else. they're supposed to get some sort of credit for working hard?

 

rely on them to provide access to the resource - a few ways to look at this. but the best way, please tell me how gamefish status takes away access to the resource? our hero above, the hard working commercial fisherman will still have access to the resource he just won't be able to profit off the sale of that resource. he can still participate in the fishery, he will just have to do it recreationally. 

 

it's time to start valuing our limited public resources as something more than a pile of fish that the privileged and disproportionate few profit from. 

 

So if they all of a sudden tried to take away your job after relying on it for the past 20 years you would just roll over and let them? Its not just that they work hard cuz sure plenty of people do but they chose this as their career. Obviously not all comm guys are relying solely on fish for their income, but I know of quite a few who do and a 20k hit to their salary would be a difficult burden for them or anyone for that matter to over come regardless of their job type. They have a right to fight for their living just as much as you or I do so I wouldn't be so condescending towards it 

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Just now, jmarino1432 said:

So if they all of a sudden tried to take away your job after relying on it for the past 20 years you would just roll over and let them? Its not just that they work hard cuz sure plenty of people do but they chose this as their career. Obviously not all comm guys are relying solely on fish for their income, but I know of quite a few who do and a 20k hit to their salary would be a difficult burden for them or anyone for that matter to over come regardless of their job type. They have a right to fight for their living just as much as you or I do so I wouldn't be so condescending towards it 

why do they get a pass and everyone doesn't?

 

i worked for a large corp in the early 2000. the business was in the crapper - guess what happened? i lost my job, along with a lot of other people. 

 

our public resources are limited and belong to the public, not the select few that profit off of it's harvest )to it's detriment as well as that of the majority of the public).

 

back to the issue here - it's mass. i'd be curious to know how many guys really rely on bass to make a living. my guess is that it's not much. 

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Conservation -vs- exploitation.

For sustainability the two must coexist and have balance.

Blame... taken or placed solves nothing.

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I believe in mass its a few hundred who rely on the sale of their fish for lively hood. I would also be curious to see what percentage of rec guys are truly in it for catch and release. If you made bass a game fish I think a lot of people would end up giving up on bass fishing entirely because they will no longer be allowed to harvest a fish. Eating your catch is a huge reason why may people fish

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6 hours ago, ThunnusBlue said:

Really, I see never ending, repetitive griping and finger pointing. Commercial fishing is immoral. Ban this, ban that.

Living off social security must get really boring. Some of you people really need to get a life outside of the internet. 

The truth is no one knows how much the rec sector keeps. How could they know? 

 

What choo talkin' 'bout Willis?

 

I'm 49, run a small business, and fish 4 or 5 days a week.

 

I'm nowhere near retirement, and get to spend quite a bit of time outside fishing and/or skiing.

 

You think this site is comprised of retired Socialists that spend all day at the computer?  Really?

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If commercia SB fishing ended tonight in Mass, there would be a proposal in tomorrow to give that Quota to the recs. It happened in NJ and Conn, wanting their "share" even thought the recs were taking more to start with.

 Stripers Forever= anti commercial  but also hosts a whole lot of people making money off the fish. I really got a kick out of a SF promo video about saving the fish, more that half of those interviewed had skin in the game. F'en hippocrates.

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I honestly don't think there will be stripers to catch in 2025 at this rate.

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theres no "gain" in it if the commercial quota just gets caught by the recreational sector...   there has to be some real conservation

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37 mins ago, JoeyZac said:

 

What choo talkin' 'bout Willis?

 

I'm 49, run a small business, and fish 4 or 5 days a week.

 

I'm nowhere near retirement, and get to spend quite a bit of time outside fishing and/or skiing.

 

You think this site is comprised of retired Socialists that spend all day at the computer?  Really?

That guy is seriously out of his mind, just use the ignore function and block him. 

 

I did but I still see his ridiculous posts because people quote him lol

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Having redfish classified as a sport fish (i.e., no commercial harvest) and slot limits has done wonders for red drum. It would work the same way for striped bass. I have no sympathy for the commercial guys...they have virtually destroyed the ecosystem in the Chesapeake Bay.

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The part under-emphasized is that with no legal commercial market, a lot of that "rec" caught fish that finds it way to market ,like those canal fish, would simply not be caught at all, they would not be bothering. The harvest reduction would not be just the "on the books" comm quota. I'm sure the buffalo hunters were very emotional about wanting to hunt buffalo just like their dads, and no one should take away their livelihoods.

 

 

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6 mins ago, Kent I said:

Having redfish classified as a sport fish (i.e., no commercial harvest) and slot limits has done wonders for red drum. It would work the same way for striped bass. I have no sympathy for the commercial guys...they have virtually destroyed the ecosystem in the Chesapeake Bay.

Couldn’t agree more. One fish per person, 34”-40”, gives them a couple years to breed before the possibility of being being killed. Zero commercial fishing. Rec and Com guys are going to keep defending what they are doing until we go into another moratorium, then blame it on the next guy. Unfortunately with bass it’s the recreational fisherman that are to blame.

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10 hours ago, stripedbassking said:

I was just going to post about this lol

GREAT NEWS!!!!!!! Hopefully they'll be able to end the Commercial fishery, would help with some of the poaching and the over limits if there isn't a legal monetary value on a Bass head.

you make no sense! commercial guys are not the issue..They do it legally and not for nothing, a black market will exist with or without stripers being legal or illegal...I have friends who are commercial guys and they go by the book more than the normal guy..I see sooooooo many rec guys keeping shorts and stashing fish in bushes late night around shore lines where no one sees them....get you facts straight before you point fingers

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