Big Will

What do you guys think about the breakaway hdx?

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On 9/28/2017 at 10:55 PM, Big Will said:

You don't think the butt is a little long on the regular hdx? Maybe I'm wrong I'll try it out for a few trips before I make the decision. Nick from breakaway said it was ok but sent me a video and apparently I'm not casting with my arms far apart enough to begin with. I just thought it seemed a little clumsy the way it is. the way I usually cast I don't leave my arms that far apart I've seen other people use a pendulum or off the ground cast without that long of a butt section but I'll give it a try before I do any modifications 

I do think the butt length (tip to reel seat) on the 13' is too long.....that's one of the reasons I buy the 14'....with no reel seat and place a higher quality reel seat at the correct position for me....still yielding over 13' fully built rod.

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On 9/28/2017 at 10:55 PM, Big Will said:

You don't think the butt is a little long on the regular hdx? Maybe I'm wrong I'll try it out for a few trips before I make the decision. Nick from breakaway said it was ok but sent me a video and apparently I'm not casting with my arms far apart enough to begin with. I just thought it seemed a little clumsy the way it is. the way I usually cast I don't leave my arms that far apart I've seen other people use a pendulum or off the ground cast without that long of a butt section but I'll give it a try before I do any modifications 

Can you post the video ???

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3 hours ago, frazerp said:

Can you post the video ???

this is what he sent me. I was surprised how responsive they are to customers. Very good customer service. 

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I cut my 14' hdx to 13' and it makes it a lot more manageable. The tournament 14 hdx is hard to load up, very stiff and very "British" in character. My next rod will be a Carolina CP 12'8" with 6-8 inch extension. Easier for a 71 yr.old salt to cast.

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I’m not getting very good distance with it yet. I lost my 525 mag a few years ago and the daiwa saltist 30h i put on it just isn’t comfortable for me yet. Even with 8 and a bunker head the rod doesn’t load a whole lot. I used to be able to hit 100 yards easy with a pinnacle heaver and my 525. with this setup I’m still still getting used to it. Besides that I haven’t casted 8 n bait in awhile so I’m really rusty. 

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May I suggest a Breakaway LDX, it is a lighter rod. Out of the box it is 13' 3" rated 5-7OZ. I have cut 6" off the tip making the rod 12'9" and it casts 8&B8 full Hatteras cast with no problem. For what it does it is very light, it is an equal section rod, tip and butt the same length, until, I cut the tip 6 inches.

 

I will also say at your age using a smaller reel than the 30H saltist. Try a 20 size reel instead.

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23 hours ago, longcaster said:

May I suggest a Breakaway LDX, it is a lighter rod. Out of the box it is 13' 3" rated 5-7OZ. I have cut 6" off the tip making the rod 12'9" and it casts 8&B8 full Hatteras cast with no problem. For what it does it is very light, it is an equal section rod, tip and butt the same length, until, I cut the tip 6 inches.

 

I will also say at your age using a smaller reel than the 30H saltist. Try a 20 size reel instead.

I just got a 525 mag with a knobby mag that I will be using. Got rid of the saltist. Next month I’m going to pick up the St Croix avid 12’ for the spring. I’ll just keep the hdx for a backup. I fish bait a lot so eventually I’m just going to get a custom made because there aren’t many good rods off the shelf that can cast 8 and bait. And what do you mean at my age? :laugh:  Although I do have a problem with my shoulder already but that only comes up when plugging for 5 hours straight. 

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1 hour ago, Big Will said:

I just got a 525 mag with a knobby mag that I will be using. Got rid of the saltist. Next month I’m going to pick up the St Croix avid 12’ for the spring. I’ll just keep the hdx for a backup. I fish bait a lot so eventually I’m just going to get a custom made because there aren’t many good rods off the shelf that can cast 8 and bait. And what do you mean at my age? :laugh:  Although I do have a problem with my shoulder already but that only comes up when plugging for 5 hours straight. 

The shortened LDX handles 8&B8 just fine. It does as well as CTS's and other custom big drum rods.

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12 mins ago, longcaster said:

The shortened LDX handles 8&B8 just fine. It does as well as CTS's and other custom big drum rods.

Wouldn’t all the guides have to be rearranged if shortened though? I think the hdx will get some good use in real heavy surf where 10 plus ounces is needed or for throwing whole bunker with tail cut off which I also do on occasion if I think there are big fish around. But as far as stripers up here I think I would be happier with something else for daily use. I like the heavy avid it seems like a more comfortable rod. I don’t spike my rod so that one extra foot and thickness of the blank does matter when holding it all day. I want to keep it at $400 or under and I don’t see many other options. Even if the Ldx is a good rod for my use I would prefer a higher end rod with better components just because I know I’m going to be using it a lot.  

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No no guides will have to be removed. Well except the last one before the tip top. You will loose one guide as the rod is shortened, the rest remain unchanged. I'll try and take a pic tomorrow and post it.

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Just now, longcaster said:

No no guides will have to be removed. Well except the last one before the tip top. You will loose one guide as the rod is shortened, the rest remain unchanged. I'll try and take a pic tomorrow and post it.

Ok cool I’d like to see that. I know with certain guide layouts stuff like that can be a minor problem. While I’m at it I might as well ask how much would a custom 8 and bait rod run? I’m guessing alot. I’ve never had the need to have a custom rod made but I think this is the only case where I would actually consider it one day. 

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2 hours ago, Big Will said:

I don’t spike my rod so that one extra foot and thickness of the blank does matter when holding it all day

 

Try a rod holder?

Long butt rods don't work so well with the leather or rubber rod bucket's we use down here, but the idea for a belt mounted one in the image attached seems clever.

 

Simple rod holder.jpeg

SA Style rod bucket.jpg

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On 11/29/2017 at 6:50 PM, Big Will said:

I just got a 525 mag with a knobby mag that I will be using. Got rid of the saltist. Next month I’m going to pick up the St Croix avid 12’ for the spring. I’ll just keep the hdx for a backup. I fish bait a lot so eventually I’m just going to get a custom made because there aren’t many good rods off the shelf that can cast 8 and bait. And what do you mean at my age? :laugh:  Although I do have a problem with my shoulder already but that only comes up when plugging for 5 hours straight. 

The 12ft Avid does load up nicely from the tip down through the blank.

 

If you are not a fan of a really stiff rod, I think you will enjoy fishing with the 12ft Avid.

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14 hours ago, Beastly Backlash said:

The 12ft Avid does load up nicely from the tip down through the blank.

 

If you are not a fan of a really stiff rod, I think you will enjoy fishing with the 12ft Avid.

That’s what I thought. I’m not always a fan of a super stiff rod for fishing bait. Sometimes it’s needed but for most days it’s too much. Since you’ve casted the avid what weights do you think it loads best with? And is actually worth the price tag as far as quality goes? 

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5 hours ago, Big Will said:

That’s what I thought. I’m not always a fan of a super stiff rod for fishing bait. Sometimes it’s needed but for most days it’s too much. Since you’ve casted the avid what weights do you think it loads best with? And is actually worth the price tag as far as quality goes? 

The rod loads up easily with 6oz and the sweet spot falls right on the 8oz and bait spot. I wouldn't hesitate to cast 10oz and bait with the rod, it will handle those kind of pay loads.

 

Getting used to how the blank casts was a little difficult for me though, I am used to the stiff Ocean Master and Tica Dolphin heavers which require a good amount of force to load them, you definitely do not need much force to load the Avid at all. The Avid does make fighting smaller fish more fun then the stiffer heavers out there, which is what I actually like most about the rod, I imagine this is because it has a sensitive and responsive tip.

 

Regarding the price, I liked the rod enough to get two of them. The rod is made in the USA and it comes with an excellent lifetime warranty; St. Croix's customer service alone is worth the purchase just to deal with them. The rods have excellent guides that can handle the stress and abuse caused by shock leader knots passing back and forth through the guides, which can always be a big issue with poor quality guides.

 

The only issue I really have with the rods are the style of guides and the number of guides on the rod, but this is only regarding the spinning rod guide layout. The guides are the Fuji K concept guides which are small in diameter, which I feel causes extra friction when using spinning reels. But, these guides work exceptionally well with the conventional rod layout and conventional reels.

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