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#1 Pmho

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Posted May 25 2012 - 11:17 AM


looking for a low cost ten weight fast action  light fly rod.



 



what does everyone think of echo edge, or 3



or tfo clouser or ticr ?  have a colton trade winds to stiff for me nice rod.



 



I fish musky with a echo ion  like it. But looking for something to throw a intermediate  with double 5/0 on it.  



#2 Oakman

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Posted May 25 2012 - 11:30 AM

I like Colton rods and reels very much. But, I do find I like them over lined quite a bit to slow them down. I fish a 9wt Leviathian with an 11 wt Wulff floating line and that rod handles it just fine.

Maybe try jumping up a line wt or two to see if it helps?

I have also thrown that set up with 18" of T-14 and a flatwing tied on a 6/0 siwash on the front to get deep. Handles that as well.

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Posted May 25 2012 - 3:32 PM

looking for a low cost ten weight fast action  light fly rod.


Low cost and light weight is very difficult to achieve. TFO BVK comes close.
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#4 Mike Oliver

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Posted May 25 2012 - 5:12 PM

Difference between a high end and low end 10 wt rod is very little in terms of rod weight. What will kill you is the total all up swing weight with the reel being the biggest problem. Way round this is to use a smaller reel say an 8wt or 9wt and forgo some backing capacity which you are unlikely ever to need in reality. You can improve backing capacity by using ultra thin modern braids.

If you are talking rod feel thats a totally different ball game and both low end and high end rods can feel bad to you. You have no choice but to go to a tackle shop that stocks in depth and across a price range of rods and try them out.
The other way is to buy on a whim Very common) buy because something is on sale ( also very common) but if you subcome to this method expect to get a crock of dog do.

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Posted May 25 2012 - 7:26 PM


Honestly keep your eyes peeled on Craigslist and buy and sell in the forums. You can come across some smoking deals for the same price you pay for a cheaper rod.



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Posted May 25 2012 - 8:44 PM

Low cost and light weight is very difficult to achieve. TFO BVK comes close.


As much as I love the Colton Tradewinds, the crunch's rod recommendation is probably the best for you. BVK casts very nicely at all distances and is super light. Another I'd throw in the mix if you don't like BVK is the Redington CPX. You can find good deals on it on the big Bay auction site.

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Posted May 25 2012 - 8:46 PM


I don't have any experience with the Echo rods, but I do own a TiCr 8wt.  It was my first fly rod and I can tell you that I still love it.  Now, it is heavier than most rods in the class.  If the BVK had existed, I probably would have gone that route, extremely light and fast action.  I was just in the market for a 10wt myself and weight was the biggest factor due to past wrist injuries.  I ended up, strangely enough, with the new Orvis Clearwater.  I had casted the Helios and Access rods and liked them, but refused to pay the premium for those rods.  The 10wt Clearwater is very lightweight, 3-7/8 oz, and seemed to put less torque on my wrist than the others I tested -- TFO, Loomis, Sage, St Croix, etc.  By comparison, my 8wt TiCr is around 5.6oz.  It may not be for everyone, but give it a toss if you get the chance.  The price comes in under most the other rods in the class. 



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Posted May 25 2012 - 9:07 PM

check out the Redington Predator --outstanding rods for the money
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Posted May 26 2012 - 5:02 AM

Pmho,


Most 10wt rods are not heavy these days. Apart from the weight of the reel what tends to tire a lot of guys wrists is the sheer power these rods have. You have to load these rods and start and stop them, excelerate them and it is the resistnace to bending which wrecks your arm if you are not casting fit. Good technique and reasonable strength in the forearm and wrist all help.

You have some starting points rod wise and I am pretty sure that it should not be too hard to find these rods where you can at least test cast them and make some sort of meanig comparisons.
When relatively new to this game it is very possible to actually select a rod and think its great and only to realise how bad it is later when you try other rods. Only experience can give you the ability to benchmark rods.
One way through this maze and in honesty it is not that difficult to find an adequate rod is to set yourself a budget for new and for secondhand. Then find out which rods fall inside that budget and go and try them out. Often one rod will stand out from the rest. Brian has suggested a Reddington and he gets to cast a whole ruck of rods in a fishing year more than most I suspect. The BVK is an ok rod one or two of my buddies have them. It would not hurt to check these two out. Either will do a job for you. You don't want to spend a whole season looking for a rod. The bite is on now on the NE Coast.

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Posted May 26 2012 - 5:26 AM

If you can wait, maybe hit a fly shop that has a few of the rods you like in stock. Maybe they will let you cast them out back...

My first choice is an older Able or Powell.. Quick, smooth and strong
Next would be the TFO TiCR...

Just my opinion

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Posted May 27 2012 - 7:21 AM

Pmho,
What is your top line budget?
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Posted May 27 2012 - 9:08 AM

I guess I would ask .... what line is it that you want to throw?

Do you want to use a 10wt line (like Wulff Monoclear 10wt) or do you want a fly rod for big fish & big flies. Because it seems that many rods from different manufacturers are FAST and you'll be wanting to over line a 10wt rod. Particularly 10wts and above which tend to be "tarpon" optimize and stiffer in the butt section.

Hence .... a nice casting 10wt fly rod might actually be a 9wt.

The Colton 10wt rod I recommended to a friend was definitely fast and stiff .... 11wt fly line material. My old RPLX 9wt is user friendly with 10wt fly line on it (even 11wt floating). My T&T Horizon 9wt is sweet with 10wt WFI line. The 10wt T&T Horizon while super light was definitely a 400 grain / 11wt cannon.

So I would ask the thread master what are you fishing for ....what line is it that you want to use?
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#13 Pmho

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Posted May 29 2012 - 9:57 AM

Thank you everyone. I fish for musky. And you guys use big rods. I have echo ion and a Colton trade winds need something lighter for intermediate line. My wrist is killing me from the Colton. Nice fast rod. The orvis clear water looks interesting. Also the bvk.. No place in central pa to try 10 weights. Looking to spend 199 to 299.. Or trade

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Posted May 29 2012 - 11:09 AM

Thank you everyone. I fish for musky. And you guys use big rods. I have echo ion and a Colton trade winds need something lighter for intermediate line. My wrist is killing me from the Colton. Nice fast rod. The orvis clear water looks interesting. Also the bvk.. No place in central pa to try 10 weights. Looking to spend 199 to 299.. Or trade


Stop using your wrist! Lock that thing down. I can sling the 10 weight from sun up to sun down for 5 days straight and the only things that hurt are my feet from standing all day. My wrist stays locked when I cast. Yours should too. Dropping the weight on a fast action ten weight is not going to solve the aching wrist. Changing the way you cast will.
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Posted May 29 2012 - 11:23 AM


 after awhile of casting two 7/0 connected together with 90 pound  wire you start doing stuff wrong. hanks