I don't have any experience with the Echo rods, but I do own a TiCr 8wt. It was my first fly rod and I can tell you that I still love it. Now, it is heavier than most rods in the class. If the BVK had existed, I probably would have gone that route, extremely light and fast action. I was just in the market for a 10wt myself and weight was the biggest factor due to past wrist injuries. I ended up, strangely enough, with the new Orvis Clearwater. I had casted the Helios and Access rods and liked them, but refused to pay the premium for those rods. The 10wt Clearwater is very lightweight, 3-7/8 oz, and seemed to put less torque on my wrist than the others I tested -- TFO, Loomis, Sage, St Croix, etc. By comparison, my 8wt TiCr is around 5.6oz. It may not be for everyone, but give it a toss if you get the chance. The price comes in under most the other rods in the class.