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#1 Big Dipper

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Posted May 11 2011 - 1:05 PM

I checked a couple of local art supply stores looking for Etex and couldn't find it.
I decided I would give Rustoleum (Crystal Clear Enamel) and Krylon (Acrylic Crystal Clear) a try. Both products turned a decent Rustoleum Silver Metallic finish into a dull, cloudy gray.

Does anyone have any other recommendations that I could try? I've never used Etex, so I'm not sure if that would cause the same problems. I'm new to painting lures, and would prefer to use an aerosol spray can if possible, but the ones I've tried have ruined the metallic finish. If I have to use an epoxy sealer or something else I will, but I'd prefer to keep the process as simple and quick as possible.

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Posted May 11 2011 - 4:45 PM

That 's a killer. No top coat will prevent that paint from going gray.
If you're going to use an airbrush, try using silver pearl with a drop of black for your silver.




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Posted May 11 2011 - 8:47 PM

All my plugs are painted with rattle cans. I use rustoleum silver metallic for bellys and a little sheen to blend top to bottom. I use Krylon crystal clear in Satin finish as a scratch coat before clear coat. It has to be satin if you are using etex. Wont work with gloss or matte. If it looks a little flat before etex, don't worry, the etex will make it look nice and shiney and how it looked before the clear. The Krylon clear does not like humidity. Hit the plug with a hair dryer before the clear spray to warm it up a bit. Hit it again IMMEDIATELY after spraying for a few seconds, meaning have the hair dryer on already. If you wait more than a few seconds it won 't work. This will dry up any humidity that gets caught in the clear.
There is alot of trial and error with different spray paints and clears. Experiment is key. make sure that each coat bonds well to the one below and above. As many have said before, your finish is only as good as the weakest bond.
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Posted May 11 2011 - 8:54 PM

Follow up to my last post....
Didn't realize that you were using a clear spray as a final coat. I read through your post too quickly.
My suggestion would be to stick with automotive paints, same brand. Most of the big box auto parts stores carry them, pretty cool colors too.
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Posted May 13 2011 - 8:42 AM

I've tried a few clear coats for the metallic paints (Etex, 2 Ton, Clear Krylon and Rustoleum). For the most part NONE have worked. HOWEVER, after reading the post about the heating of the plug....I have had a couple that DID work with the clear coat but have had no clue as to why. I know that I didn't heat with hair dryer, but I did have a heater on in my cave...just maybe it was warm enough to make it work. Basically I've given up on coating the silver metalic and just paint them with 3 or 4 light coats. I have tried the automotive chrome and they also turn to a drab gray with a clear coat...note: I did not use automotive clear coat over the auto chrome...might make a difference. Note 2: Copper metalic is not affected at all by any of the clear coatings????



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Posted May 13 2011 - 9:03 AM

You guys may want to try a different type of finish that is out of the family of epoxy or tin spray types. Give things like poly urethane a try. Not sure if it will work but I think you guys are seeing why there are no shiny bling plugs on SOL.



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Posted May 13 2011 - 10:08 AM

Ya Winch...I've basically resigned myself to using Creek Chub chrome finish if I REALLY think it necessary. BTW those plugs that came out a drab grey...WORK!!!:D



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Posted May 13 2011 - 10:10 AM

I've done well with etex over molotow "silver dollar."


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Posted May 14 2011 - 6:50 AM

http://www.stripersonline.com/forum/thread/744669/a-way-to-get-a-really-shiny-base-coat

Just an option if you really want "Bling".




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Posted May 14 2011 - 8:43 AM


You can get several different two part epoxy finishes at Home Depot.



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Posted May 14 2011 - 11:07 AM

Ya Winch...I've basically resigned myself to using Creek Chub chrome finish if I REALLY think it necessary. BTW those plugs that came out a drab grey...WORK!!!:D


I'm doing some Bling pikies for a friend. I think he wants to wear them gold plugs around his neck or something. I tried the epoxy and everything went from bling gold to what looks like the Gold createx. They look good and will catch but it isn't what he wanted. I'm going to try the poly and see if it stays bright.

Next up is real "gold leaf" LOL



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Posted May 14 2011 - 1:04 PM

You guys may want to try a different type of finish that is out of the family of epoxy or tin spray types. Give things like poly urethane a try. Not sure if it will work but I think you guys are seeing why there are no shiny bling plugs on SOL.


I tried poly urathane with a couple of auto rattle can metallic colors. Both chrome and metallic silver went to a very dirty grey.:(.
I would bet poly urathane would do this with a lot of other chrome type finishes too.

Rustoleum bright gold worked well for me with epoxy, i.e. stayed the same as before coated.
But this a metallic rather than a shiny "chrome" type finish.
Good Luck - Lurch.


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Posted May 14 2011 - 2:47 PM

It is doable. Think about how a mirror is made. Then get the right type clear....;)



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Posted May 14 2011 - 4:17 PM

You guys may want to try a different type of finish that is out of the family of epoxy or tin spray types. Give things like poly urethane a try. Not sure if it will work but I think you guys are seeing why there are no shiny bling plugs on SOL.


I tried poly urathane with a couple of auto rattle can metallic colors. Both chrome and metallic silver went to a very dirty grey.:(.
I would bet poly urathane would do this with a lot of other chrome type finishes too.

Rustoleum bright gold worked well for me with epoxy, i.e. stayed the same as before coated.
But this a metallic rather than a shiny "chrome" type finish.
Good Luck - Lurch.


No I used the Rustoleum Metallic and got a dull finish with them with testing epoxy, Crystal Clear spray, and now you have added the poly urathane to the negative pile. (Thanks I won't try that road) Maybe I'll try the diamond coat or contact Rustoleum and see what they suggest. It is a strange road.

On using the Metallic I used createx over the top to add coloration. I had to do it slow and allow the createx to dry as it slightly beaded up. Once the first coat of createx dried I added more to get the slight coloration changes I was looking for. The plug look killer but without a finish can't see it surviving long.
On the bright side I painted some old Krocs and tins and they are bright and shiny. I won't add finish, just fish them that way. Once they lose their luster I'll just grab another.



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Posted May 16 2011 - 12:28 PM

You can add Minwax Polycrylic to the list of clear coats that don't work with silver metallic.

It looks like I'm going to have to go with the non clearing coating route.