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#1 9trout

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Posted March 08 2011 - 9:33 PM

I have a shiny new non level wind reel full of braid and I have searched the forum and seen where many say that laying the line on the spool with your left thumb becomes second nature and practice makes perfect, etc., but I cannot find a description of how to use my thumb to distribute the line on retrieve that my tiny brain can understand. Please help a deeply confused newcomer. I want to overcome a lifetime of bad habits and practice correctly in the first place, just once before I die.



#2 cheech

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Posted March 08 2011 - 9:46 PM

Left and right, Left and right.............................. Just do it.



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Posted March 08 2011 - 10:02 PM

It is not hard to do at all.Overwhelming to start but you will find it is no big deal.Becomes second nature with A few casts.


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#4 Mike Pena

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Posted March 08 2011 - 10:19 PM

Place your thumb on top of the line and apply a little pressure then
push right and pull left while retrieving. A little practice and it becomes
second nature. Good luck.



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Posted March 08 2011 - 10:20 PM

something i want to try on my next avet rod.. do a spiral wrap and position the butt guide a little to the side my thumb is on to see if i can get it to lay line on that side so i only have to push instead of push pull..
not that i have any problems doing either but i just want to see if it works..



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Posted March 08 2011 - 10:26 PM

man u think its hard trying to do it now wait till u get a big fish on then ull love it



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Posted March 08 2011 - 10:32 PM

or having a 50+ lb white sea bass tearing line and having the reel clamp not tight enough to keep the reel on the rod straight..



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Posted March 08 2011 - 10:52 PM

man u think its hard trying to do it now wait till u get a big fish on then ull love it

+1 It definitely does become second nature though. Last year, fishing with a 525mag filled to the rim with 20#mono, I caught a shark about 80#, talk about an adrenalin rush, but after about 1/2hr I had the fish. I specifically remember looking at the reel, and seeing the line almost perfectly wrapped. Funny thing is I dont remember doing it, so yes it does become second nature.
I have a rather large hand, and use the inside of the first joint on my left thumb. Just do it, you'll get it soon enough.


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Posted March 08 2011 - 11:51 PM

I have a shiny new non level wind reel full of braid and I have searched the forum and seen where many say that laying the line on the spool with your left thumb becomes second nature and practice makes perfect, etc., but I cannot find a description of how to use my thumb to distribute the line on retrieve that my tiny brain can understand. Please help a deeply confused newcomer. I want to overcome a lifetime of bad habits and practice correctly in the first place, just once before I die.



Okay 9trout,



Good on you for trying to figure out how to lay line evenly. It can be done and with practice you can achieve a better line lay than even a level wind can achieve.



This works for me => push (not cradle the line with your left thumb) left to right. Now the tricky part ( but easy in practice) at the the end of the left to right traverse flip your thumb under your line and then pull the line which is now resting against the base of your left thumb nail and pull it back from right to left.



Flip thumb again - push - flip - pull flip.



Hard to describe in words. Wish i could help you out in person.



Below is a picture of a Newell Blackie that is lingering on my computer desk top from a previous discussion in the Mass Forum, ignore the red arrow which was the topic of the discussion regarding using thumb control to break and the control the free wheeling Newell's. Look at the line lay laid up by my left thumb - done with a Camouflage Line that changed color every ten yards - you will never see these bands of color on a spinner . . . and I doubt on a level line as well.





Best of luck,



Reaux



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Posted March 09 2011 - 12:16 AM

9trout palm the left of reel with your palm. Reach underneath of rod with two middle fingers,reach under reel with index and pinkie fingers and grab inside left end plate on ether side of spool, this will leave you holding the rodnreel in your left hand and your thumb free to place on top of line and press down to front crossbar.

I Know this sounds extreme BUT if you can master this you can work a conventional in the dark without any light.
I Suggest you practice with 20lb mono
good luck



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Posted March 09 2011 - 6:40 AM

Thank you all for the kind and detailed instruction. I am a slow study, but there is a faint glow of understanding. I am off to my son's little league ball field to practice just as soon as the rain lets up.



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Posted March 09 2011 - 6:56 AM

If the line is under pressure hold the rod by the foregrip then hitch hike.
Your thump becomes a post, then guide the line left or right as needed. If the line is not under pressure then do the same but pinch the line with your thumb and forefinger to apply spooling pressure.



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Posted March 09 2011 - 7:20 AM

I think it's a good thing when someone learns to use a conventional with out the level wind. Once you get the basics, the rest will become second nature. Have fun, my friend!


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