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#1 Donadong

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Posted November 05 2010 - 2:27 PM

What is a good choice for a weed infested pond full of Picks? Shiners work great but not much of a challenge. Zoom horny toads worked a month ago but aren't working right now. Thanks for the feedback!

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Posted November 05 2010 - 4:21 PM

Since the fish will be changing from their summer/fall feeding patterns to their fall/winter patterns, surface lures will tend to be less effective.
You could switch to ribbon worms rigged weedless, but if they are efective expect to have them shredded in no time. This is a difficult time of year mainly because of the decrease in surface weeds (lily pads, etc) so the fish will be submerged in the subsurface weedbeds. Also, with the diminishing daylight conditions, you may need to use bright/colorful presentations to draw the fishes attention.
I hope this is helpful.
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Posted November 05 2010 - 4:51 PM


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What is a good choice for a weed infested pond full of Picks? Shiners work great but not much of a challenge. Zoom horny toads worked a month ago but aren't working right now. Thanks for the feedback!





try a Johnson weedless spoon with a grub trailer hooked up weedless. it has worked for me this time of year. try the gold with a pumpkin color grub, 4 inch, siver spoon with red trailer.

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Posted November 05 2010 - 6:18 PM

agree with the weedless spoon/grub

My biggest have been on in line spinners - white

#5 Donadong

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Posted November 06 2010 - 3:41 PM

Thanks for the ideas, I'll give em a shot.

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Posted November 07 2010 - 10:08 AM

I suggest you look into the new 2010 plopper whopper lures, its crazy man.

#7 GBCapt

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Posted November 07 2010 - 12:47 PM

The Johnson Silver Minnow, either gold or silver has been a mainstay in my arsenal for fishing weeds since I was a teenager fishing the millfoil grass mats in Currituck Sound N.C..





I started with the minnow plain, added pork rind with good success and also add plastic trailers if I have no rind. My favorite plastic trailer is the tail end of a mercurochrome colored zoom worm.





Take care that the weed guard is adjusted as low as possible to stay effective and remains centered over the hook point.





My technique was to get upwind of a grass mat tip the motor up on my skiff allowing the breeze to push me over the mat, fan cast as far as possible, reel slowly but steadily and allow the spoon/trailer to fall into any opening on a tight line.





Both bass and pickerel attack it with abandon!

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Posted November 07 2010 - 7:22 PM

zoom fluke has always been a go to for me in the weeds when there not too thick. I don't target pickerel but they seem to love the fluke.

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Posted November 07 2010 - 7:28 PM

Skunkmaster was on the track I was gonna say. Bass assassin makes a 3 inch soft plastic that i used to use. Rig it texposed and have at it.

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Posted November 08 2010 - 12:17 PM

I gotta back up the Zoom Fluke.. I like the super fluke jr's texas rigged with the tip of the hook slightly pushed into the back of the fluke. No weight, just lightly jerk the lure with a pause between each to let the fluke do its erratic darting action. Let it drop around lilly pads, algae, any structure. Theyll smack it. The all silver color seems to work the best for me.

Oh ya, make sure to use a mono leader. 6-8 lb is fine, my last trip I didnt and my braid was chewed to ****. Fun fish though

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Posted November 08 2010 - 1:44 PM


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I gotta back up the Zoom Fluke.. I like the super fluke jr's texas rigged with the tip of the hook slightly pushed into the back of the fluke. No weight, just lightly jerk the lure with a pause between each to let the fluke do its erratic darting action. Let it drop around lilly pads, algae, any structure. Theyll smack it. The all silver color seems to work the best for me.

Oh ya, make sure to use a mono leader. 6-8 lb is fine, my last trip I didnt and my braid was chewed to ****. Fun fish though




I agree but....
I guess that line would hold up if the fish doesn't touch it. I fish with nothing less that 10lb mono except for my dropshot setup. My light baitcaster setup has a minimum of 14lb mono on it. Guess its up to what people prefer. They can probably bight through 14lb just as quick as 8lb but why not go bigger just in case?

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Posted November 08 2010 - 1:56 PM

i find that the lighter the line, the better the action. Just a personal preference i guess. If they didnt bite through 10 lb braid, there definitely not biting through 8 or 10 lb mono

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Posted November 08 2010 - 2:57 PM


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i find that the lighter the line, the better the action. Just a personal preference i guess. If they didnt bite through 10 lb braid, there definitely not biting through 8 or 10 lb mono




True that. I've had pickerel bite through 14lb like butter if they get a clean shot at it.

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Posted November 09 2010 - 3:00 PM

I'll hit Bass Pro on the way out this weekend. Thanks again for the ideas.

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Posted November 09 2010 - 5:48 PM

The # 13-15 Tony Accetta Pet Spoon is light years ahead of the Johnson Silver Minnow for most everything. The weedless model seldom snags and the action is unbelievable. Even with the water cooling, fish it faster than you'd fish for Bass.

I've used Pet spoons for more than 50 years. This past week, the huge # 21 Pet was sudden death for Tarpon here. I probably hooked 20 big Tarpon on it in one week. I know I could catch Pickerel on the # 15 this afternoon and it wouldn't take long to do it. I live about a mile ATCF from one of the best Bass lakes in Florida. It is also loaded with Pickerel.

BTW, paint a # 14 Pet spoon black and add a black skirt to it and you have one of the very best Bass lures of all times. If you can't find the weedless model, let me know and I'll bend up some weed guards that are identical to the factory model.

Luhr-Jensen bought Tony Accetta and a bunch of other companies. They are not easy to deal with. Back in the day, I could call Tony Accetta if I couldn't get one of their products locally and have them in hand within a day or two. I sure miss the good old days.
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