Casting braided line with conventional reels?
Posted September 09 2010 - 9:21 AM
I ended up re-spooling the reel with 14# mono and using the braid on one of my spinners.
Anyone here using braid on conventional reels with advice?
Posted September 09 2010 - 9:32 AM
Posted September 09 2010 - 9:37 AM
I used to use PowerPro, but some of the birds nests used to be paralyzing, try the fireline, its a little easier to work with.
Posted September 09 2010 - 9:58 AM
Other than that, lightly thumb the spool through the entire cast. If you hear the line make a slapping noise as its leaving the spool, slow it down a bit with your thumb.
Posted September 09 2010 - 10:00 AM
Posted September 09 2010 - 10:10 AM
Posted September 09 2010 - 10:15 AM
When you retrieve your lure/bait, thumb the line across the spool faster. I cross the spool every turn of the crank (6.1 spool revolutions), this will make it harder for the line to dig into itself.
I use 65 lb braid most of the time, but 50 lb PowerPro(or equivalent thickness) works too.
I use 25lb mono when I chunk a spiked rod(rarely), but I need to feel the lure working when I'm plugging.
Edit: see post above, When I am using a plug that doesn't pull back, or one that causes slack on the retrieve(spook), I level with the line pinched between my thumb and forefinger. I'm terrible with pencils, so I usually forget to put one in the bag.
Posted September 09 2010 - 11:15 AM
Other than to reassure that braid works very well on convench reels. I am not a hyper distance caster like some here, but I fish without backlash or other problems and enough fishing distance for my applications. The reels are adjusted to mostly cast with little thumb controlâ€¦.Except for the Squidders which I grew up casting.
I use # 50 on most and #40 and #30 on a couple, in fact Iâ€™ve never used mono on any of these particular reels: Penn Squidder 146, 145, Penn 525, Abu 7000-C3, and a couple of older Abu 6000-6500 series. Before super braid, I used braided Dacron or Micron.
I think Stewieâ€™s advice is good; you may be putting the line on not tightly enough. There is some amount of resistance, or LACK of resistance where one pinches the line to increase the tension. I think this becomes instinctual to anyone who has done this a lot. Sorry, not very helpful.
Generally, I try to imitate a level-wind reel with my line thumb; one wrap right beside the next and NEVER climbing the spool sidesâ€¦..But there is all sorts of latitude here, at least with my usage. Broader wraps will no doubt work or Stewie and others wouldnâ€™t suggest it.
I don't use mono for the surf-fishing I do. Braid has never given any problems and only improved the sensitivity of the equipment. I can feel the slightest little smelt tap on the bait out at 300 feet or so. One can even feel what the bottom is; smooth soft sand, or a few gravel pieces. I think even shells on the edges of sloughs and troughs. (Good spots, those)
Casting a tin, I can feel a few strands of eel grass on the teaser or metal. A plug is usually a bit less sensitive, I think. But with that plug you want to feel the slightest little difference too.
Have faith, it works good.
Posted September 09 2010 - 1:09 PM
Posted September 09 2010 - 1:12 PM
The only one I'll put on a conventional reel (for casting) is Stealth
Something about the way it's made makes it perfect for beach casting.
I've heard it's because the Teflon is impregnated throughout the line rather than just as a surface coating. I've also heard because it's rounder, thicker ............ blah, blah, blah........
Whatever the reason, it fishes like mono. Anytime you do get a backlash (and we all do) it pulls out as easily as it does with mono. The other lines will cost you half a spool of line and 45 minutes to clear.
In quite a few years and many, many thousands of casts I've had to cut out one backlash - two if you count the time I let Gary try casting it (RIP, miss you pal )
My 6500 size plugging reels are spooled with 30#, 7000 size bait reels with 65# to 80#
And after having raved about it like that, I have to add a disclaimer.
Stealth is crap on spinning gear, don't even think about it.
I just wanta play everyday despite small nagging injuries --
and go home to a woman who appreciates how full of crap I truly am. ~ Crash Davis
I'm really easy to get along with once you people learn to see it my way.
Posted September 09 2010 - 1:37 PM
Posted September 09 2010 - 1:47 PM
That's a specific and strong recommendation from a veteran surfcaster. I'll try it too.
Posted September 09 2010 - 1:54 PM
Posted September 09 2010 - 2:41 PM
I'll try again this Fall. I don't even think about the way my thumb moves during retrieve, it's automatic. I suppose I don't have enough resistance when retrieving, and I probably am not making the cross weave big enough cause the line certainly does dig into itself. This was with 50# Sufix braid.
Posted September 09 2010 - 5:47 PM