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#1 mizzle

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Posted August 27 2010 - 11:49 AM

My friend and I going to Salmon river next month, never try salmon fishing before. What kind of lures I should bring for the fall run in this river? And what are rods I should bring, 7' and 9' surf rod are OK? or just 6.5' freshwater rod?

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Posted August 27 2010 - 12:30 PM

Mizzle, first off on the river you will be using flies as other techniques are frowned upon like J-Plugs.
I would personally go out and buy a 9' noodle rod and spinning reel if you don't fly fish. You can get set up up there at either Whitakers, Salmon River Sports Shop, or other fly shops like Fat Nancy's but I tend to stick with Whitakers, Salmon River Sports Shop and another fly shop who's name seems to be eluding me but it is located just across the street from Fat Nancy's.
If you go to Salmon River Sports Shop tell "Button" (Jim), Russ from Brooklyn sent ya in and he will take care of you. He is a super nice guy and will help you out with anything you need.
Now when fishing the river with either flies or egg sacks you want to have a 4 foot leader maximum from your split shots.
For salmon the flies I use are egg sucking leaches, glo-bugs and estaz flies in salmon orange, black, pink, lt blue, and red.
I will be up there in about 3 weeks and will let you know what the situation is up there.
Hope that helps!
Oh and good luck catch them up. Once you hook one King you will be hooked for life! I am, and I am counting the days for when it's time to go steelhead fishing!



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Posted August 27 2010 - 12:45 PM

Really appreciate your help buddy.
Most of us will only do spinning fishing. I guess I will definetely go to Salmon River Sports Shop to buy some local secret lures and try to ask them couple of spots coz none of us has been there before.

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Mizzle, first off on the river you will be using flies as other techniques are frowned upon like J-Plugs.

I would personally go out and buy a 9' noodle rod and spinning reel if you don't fly fish. You can get set up up there at either Whitakers, Salmon River Sports Shop, or other fly shops like Fat Nancy's but I tend to stick with Whitakers, Salmon River Sports Shop and another fly shop who's name seems to be eluding me but it is located just across the street from Fat Nancy's.

If you go to Salmon River Sports Shop tell "Button" (Jim), Russ from Brooklyn sent ya in and he will take care of you. He is a super nice guy and will help you out with anything you need.

Now when fishing the river with either flies or egg sacks you want to have a 4 foot leader maximum from your split shots.

For salmon the flies I use are egg sucking leaches, glo-bugs and estaz flies in salmon orange, black, pink, lt blue, and red.

I will be up there in about 3 weeks and will let you know what the situation is up there.

Hope that helps!

Oh and good luck catch them up. Once you hook one King you will be hooked for life! I am, and I am counting the days for when it's time to go steelhead fishing!


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Posted August 27 2010 - 3:10 PM

Rusty Said It.. Find Someone To Tie Your Estaz Flies You Will Lose Alot!!! Estaz Have Been Good For Me Salmon And Steels... If Not Familiar With Fly Gear Go With The Noodle 9ft Spinning Reel 12-14# Mono If You And Your Buddys Never Been There Be Safe!! Korkers!!!!!! Are A Must!!!! Been Going For 6 Years Never Been Washed Done But Seen People Coming Down And Heard Of Some Bad Incidents.... And Wait Till U Hook A Salmon Or Better Yet A Steel... When You Goin... Me And 3 Buddys Will Be Around Pineville Oct 1-3


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Posted August 27 2010 - 3:28 PM

Just googled 'Estaz Flies', I guess I can tie it by myself. just wonder how I throw and work it with 9' rod, with bobber or sinker?

Rusty Said It.. Find Someone To Tie Your Estaz Flies You Will Lose Alot!!! Estaz Have Been Good For Me Salmon And Steels... If Not Familiar With Fly Gear Go With The Noodle 9ft Spinning Reel 12-14# Mono If You And Your Buddys Never Been There Be Safe!! Korkers!!!!!! Are A Must!!!! Been Going For 6 Years Never Been Washed Done But Seen People Coming Down And Heard Of Some Bad Incidents.... And Wait Till U Hook A Salmon Or Better Yet A Steel... When You Goin... Me And 3 Buddys Will Be Around Pineville Oct 1-3


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Posted August 27 2010 - 6:00 PM

Theres To Alot Of Diff Techniques... I Had An Experienced Friend Take Me Up Then I Learned From There... Know 6 Years Later I Am Pretty Consistant On Hooking Fish.. The First Year Was Tough... Basicly It Is 2 Big Split Shots 2-3 Feet Above Hook.. Ther Are Lots Of Regs So Get Them Ahead Of Time.. No Casting Involved Just Flipping Out And Let Drift It Stops You Lift... It Is Alot Of Line Control.. If You Or Your Buddys Know Anyone How Has Been There Get Them To Go Or In My Opnion ! Observe ! Jus Watch Some Of Those Guys Who Are Hooking Up And Follow There Lead... Once You Hook Up Theres No Fish Like Them!!!! You Will Lose Alot Of Gear I Know I Did Those First Couple Of Years Dont Get Fustrated Once You Get The Drift And Weight Right It All Pays Off In The End


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Posted August 28 2010 - 9:59 AM

BTW, Besides NY fishing license, is there any other permit I should purchase for fishing salmon in this river?


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Posted August 28 2010 - 3:30 PM

jus a fishing liscence is required....


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Posted August 28 2010 - 5:04 PM

watch out for the wardens. they like to hide in the bushes with binoculars and bust people.


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Posted September 08 2010 - 8:18 AM

just read the regulation again last nite.
Still have some Q about it, can I use jighead with some plastic lure or kastermaster tins for salmon fishing?
And what is 'free-swinging' hook?


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Posted September 08 2010 - 9:45 AM

watch out for the wardens. they like to hide in the bushes with binoculars and bust people.



Yeah, but that's because people insist on poaching and using illegal techniques to foulhook dying fish. You'll still guys show up with the ol' Michigan Cricket once in awhile.



just read the regulation again last nite.

Still have some Q about it, can I use jighead with some plastic lure or kastermaster tins for salmon fishing?

And what is 'free-swinging' hook?



The hook can't be molded into the plug or jig. You need something like a single siwash hook. No treble hooks are allowed anywhere on that river.


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Posted September 08 2010 - 1:49 PM

If you have the $$$ hire a guide for the first day, it will help tremendously........I've been fishing the salmon river for over 15 years and the situation/laws have changed drastically, there are still crowds from mid Sept to late Oct, so do not expect to be alone........
In my opinion the best way to fish the salmon is with a fly rod and flies (glo bugs, estaz, woolly buggers)......remember the salmon DO NOT feed at this time, they are striking at the annoyance of your bait, so lures really do not work.
If you are running spinning gear, use a 12-14lb main line with a small swivel running to a leader of 10-8-6 lb, your weights must be no further than 4 feet from your hook (law)……
As for places to fish as soon as you get to town buy a map and look for such pools as Sportsman’s, Trestle, and School house………these are popular, but hold fish all the time.
Do not get frustrated if you are not hooking up………..you can ask for help if you see someone hooking up………make sure you are on the river late, these fish start to move as night falls………..legal fishing times are half hour before sunrise and half hour after sunset.
Please be careful with who you take advice from in the tackle shops, they are there to sell you something, and sometimes IT’S the wrong advice…………I really trust Malinda's in Altmar.....
As said before KORKERS or screws in your boots, this river is regulated by a dam and it gets very, very slippery…….you can rent some of the gear from Whitakers or Fat Nancy’s, if needed…....
Google salmon river forums this will help.

Good luck............

By the way the "RUN" started on Monday (6th)....big push of fish.........


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Posted September 08 2010 - 2:15 PM

Thanks for your detail info.
I will post some pics after coming back.


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If you have the $$$ hire a guide for the first day, it will help tremendously........I've been fishing the salmon river for over 15 years and the situation/laws have changed drastically, there are still crowds from mid Sept to late Oct, so do not expect to be alone........

In my opinion the best way to fish the salmon is with a fly rod and flies (glo bugs, estaz, woolly buggers)......remember the salmon DO NOT feed at this time, they are striking at the annoyance of your bait, so lures really do not work.

If you are running spinning gear, use a 12-14lb main line with a small swivel running to a leader of 10-8-6 lb, your weights must be no further than 4 feet from your hook (law)……

As for places to fish as soon as you get to town buy a map and look for such pools as Sportsman’s, Trestle, and School house………these are popular, but hold fish all the time.

Do not get frustrated if you are not hooking up………..you can ask for help if you see someone hooking up………make sure you are on the river late, these fish start to move as night falls………..legal fishing times are half hour before sunrise and half hour after sunset.

Please be careful with who you take advice from in the tackle shops, they are there to sell you something, and sometimes IT’S the wrong advice…………I really trust Malinda's in Altmar.....

As said before KORKERS or screws in your boots, this river is regulated by a dam and it gets very, very slippery…….you can rent some of the gear from Whitakers or Fat Nancy’s, if needed…....

Google salmon river forums this will help.
Good luck............
By the way the "RUN" started on Monday (6th)....big push of fish.........




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Posted September 09 2010 - 5:37 PM

Mizzle, first off on the river you will be using flies as other techniques are frowned upon like J-Plugs.

I would personally go out and buy a 9' noodle rod and spinning reel if you don't fly fish. You can get set up up there at either Whitakers, Salmon River Sports Shop, or other fly shops like Fat Nancy's but I tend to stick with Whitakers, Salmon River Sports Shop and another fly shop who's name seems to be eluding me but it is located just across the street from Fat Nancy's.

If you go to Salmon River Sports Shop tell "Button" (Jim), Russ from Brooklyn sent ya in and he will take care of you. He is a super nice guy and will help you out with anything you need.

Now when fishing the river with either flies or egg sacks you want to have a 4 foot leader maximum from your split shots.

For salmon the flies I use are egg sucking leaches, glo-bugs and estaz flies in salmon orange, black, pink, lt blue, and red.

I will be up there in about 3 weeks and will let you know what the situation is up there.

Hope that helps!

Oh and good luck catch them up. Once you hook one King you will be hooked for life! I am, and I am counting the days for when it's time to go steelhead fishing!



Exactly what Rusty said!! >))>


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Posted September 09 2010 - 6:04 PM

Yeah, but that's because people insist on poaching and using illegal techniques to foulhook dying fish. You'll still guys show up with the ol' Michigan Cricket once in awhile.



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That's because it's practically impossible to legally catch a fish because of the crazy regs they have. It's a money generator for them. I had quite a talk with one of the fish cops while some buddies were waiting to go in front of the judge.


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