MakoMike Posted August 2, 2018 Report Share Posted August 2, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, TimS said: Mike...potentially silly question...but aren't monkfish on the bottom? Better to say that they are "near" the bottom, unlike fluke which are literally on the bottom. Hence the difference in gill nets. Also keep in mind that a lot of those monkfish boats also have fluke licenses. And also keep in mind that most monkfish are caught in trawls. Edited August 2, 2018 by MakoMike ====Mako Mike====Makomania SportfishingPt. Judith, RI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted August 3, 2018 Report Share Posted August 3, 2018 Thanks Mike I think in this area monkfish are primarily harvested with gill nets in the late fall. I have no idea what NJ's monkfish industry makes up as a percentage of total landings...but they do gill net them here and in exactly the same bumpy bottom areas that large fluke are feeding in before heading off shore. Never seen a fluke in a gill net...then again, I've only ever caught one ghost fishing piece of gill net in my life - it had dead everything in it...but no fluke. TimS Show someone how to catch striped bass and they'll be ready to fish anywhere. Show someone where to go striped bass fishing and you'll have a desperate report chaser with loose lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 21 hours ago, TimS said: I've only ever caught one ghost fishing piece of gill net in my life - it had dead everything in it...but no fluke. TimS got my anchor in one near the "oil wreck". No winch on that boat. I didn't think I was ever getting it back. Two of us took turns for about 40 minutes. Got some nice lobster & Stone crabs for the effort. The fact that an opinion has been widely held is no evidence whatever that it is not utterly absurd Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted August 4, 2018 Report Share Posted August 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Joe said: got my anchor in one near the "oil wreck". No winch on that boat. I didn't think I was ever getting it back. Two of us took turns for about 40 minutes. Got some nice lobster & Stone crabs for the effort. Nothing as exciting as lobster or stone crab in the one we caught off Spring Lake Show someone how to catch striped bass and they'll be ready to fish anywhere. Show someone where to go striped bass fishing and you'll have a desperate report chaser with loose lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateD Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 On 7/31/2018 at 4:59 PM, MakoMike said: Very few fluke are killed in the Monkfish gill net fishery, But VTRs and server data is counted in the stock assessments. Gill nets have to almost lie on the bottom to catch flatfish, but that would be vey inefficient in catching monk fish. Do you know any monk fisherman? I know one, and they catch a LOT of fluke over the winter, mostly giant ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoMike Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 3 hours ago, nateD said: Do you know any monk fisherman? I know one, and they catch a LOT of fluke over the winter, mostly giant ones. Yes I do. We were talking about fluke by catch in New England in the gill net fishery. IOW we were talking about by catch north of cape cod, Not a lot of fluke up there during the winter. ====Mako Mike====Makomania SportfishingPt. Judith, RI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateD Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 My friend would drive out to Pt. Judith to go on his trips, no idea where they were actually fishing but I'm pretty positive it was with gill nets. You must hear stories of the Monk fisherman out there catching giant fluke. I know they were allowed to keep some but most get tossed back dead, along with dolphins, turtles, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MakoMike Posted August 7, 2018 Report Share Posted August 7, 2018 12 mins ago, nateD said: My friend would drive out to Pt. Judith to go on his trips, no idea where they were actually fishing but I'm pretty positive it was with gill nets. You must hear stories of the Monk fisherman out there catching giant fluke. I know they were allowed to keep some but most get tossed back dead, along with dolphins, turtles, etc.... the was most likely due to the state's landing limits, which during most of the summer season is 50 or 100 pounds. Nothin to do with the NEFMC or MAFMC. ====Mako Mike====Makomania SportfishingPt. Judith, RI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nateD Posted August 8, 2018 Report Share Posted August 8, 2018 Ya I know nothing about that I’m just saying fluke do get caught in gill nets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kneel Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 These were posted to a FB fluke fishing group last night, but were quickly removed. I wonder why? Just some commercial fisherman trying to feed their families and regaling of the giant fluke they catch all winter long.... Per the original poster, the second picture was in February in a monkfish/skate gillnet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Bigdeal Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 I believe the Comm. legal size is 14" ....so to answer the OP....yes, I guess we're tossing them back to be caught by Fed. licensed fishermen. Know a few who are doing just that. "Law enforcement’ is not something sovereign citizens seize from police officers. It is a societal function that citizens delegate to civil police. In so doing, we do not abdicate our own sovereignty, nor our duties as citizens. Ultimate responsibility is still ours. When those we hire as our “Protectors” are either unwilling or unable to perform that function at the critical moment, there is no law, nor standard, that says we cannot perform it for ourselves"........ John Farnam. "Gird Your Loins" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 Scallop draggers must catch a **** ton of fluke. jeffapeikin 1 Show someone how to catch striped bass and they'll be ready to fish anywhere. Show someone where to go striped bass fishing and you'll have a desperate report chaser with loose lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 31 mins ago, Kneel said: These were posted to a FB fluke fishing group last night, but were quickly removed. I wonder why? Just some commercial fisherman trying to feed their families and regaling of the giant fluke they catch all winter long.... Per the original poster, the second picture was in February in a monkfish/skate gillnet. Looks like it should be weighed in, tossed in a cooler and eaten by a raccoon.... "Depend not on fortune, but on conduct." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slacker Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 3 mins ago, Mike said: Looks like it should be weighed in, tossed in a cooler and eaten by a raccoon.... Raccoons gotta eat, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimS Posted August 29, 2018 Report Share Posted August 29, 2018 16 mins ago, Mr. Bigdeal said: I believe the Comm. legal size is 14" ....so to answer the OP....yes, I guess we're tossing them back to be caught by Fed. licensed fishermen. Know a few who are doing just that. It's like you didn't even read the other responses in this thread They don't WANT to keep 14" fluke - they are FORCED to keep 14" fluke TimS Show someone how to catch striped bass and they'll be ready to fish anywhere. Show someone where to go striped bass fishing and you'll have a desperate report chaser with loose lips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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