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#16 MikeMc

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Posted March 25 2010 - 8:49 PM

Well, SOMEWHERE in all of these posts there might actually be a SERIOUS reply - problem is, this IS the Tavern and I KNOW I can get under people's skin, so for all I know you guys could just be f'in wit me...
Googled Suke Nagahiro and of course got nothin'

But what the hell, I gave it a shot.
All I know is, this painting dates back to at least 1950, and my wife loves it.

Well then, what more do you need?!
Fish Wish's post was serious, and good advice.


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Posted March 25 2010 - 8:51 PM

and my wife loves it.

There is your answer. Art is not about value. Art is about how it affects you personally.


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Posted March 25 2010 - 8:54 PM

check the side of the stretcher and back for a signature.



Did find SOMETHING but it's only the frame -says "Anco Bilt Glendale NY". Anco apparently was a popular framing company in Queens that went out of business many years ago. That's all I got. Nothing at all on the painting itself.


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Posted March 25 2010 - 8:55 PM

Well then, what more do you need?!



True enough.





Fish Wish's post was serious, and good advice.



I gathered that. Thanks Fish Wish!!


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Posted March 25 2010 - 8:57 PM

There is your answer. Art is not about value. Art is about how it affects you personally.



My wife does love it -



I'm wondering how many plugs I could buy with it if I auction it !!



Seriously, it is kind of interesting to look at - althought I almost feel like the children in that painting are trying to tell me something....something.....


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Posted March 25 2010 - 9:29 PM

The childrens facial features have some resemblance to works of Samuel Butcher, better known as the Precious Moments founder. As Mokes mentioned, there are overtones of early Anime works similar in style to original Magna genre yet substantially westernizied with definite impressionist themes. Note the buildings in the backdrop. Mokes also picked-up the post apocalyptic qualities; the reddish hues, somber sky and overall look of disaffection. That might rightly make the work something brought home by American occupation forces in the 50's. I think the attention to detail such as the childrens locks and clothing is nothing short of striking and reveals substantial talent. I'd run a geiger counter over the work and check with Japanese art dealers specializing in mid-20th century painting.



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Posted March 26 2010 - 4:45 AM

Darter....

I would have to believe this painting will be next to impossible to ID without a name on the painting, or at least initials?

Why do you think it's 50 years old btw? The art seems a bit modern in some respects.

I would say it looks something like Dutch or some strange take on WW2 scene? Hard to say really. Portray's orphans most likely. I tried to google variations of the scene, but I got nothing.

I agree it's a cool painting and well done. Who know, maybe it's a famous painter who died before signing it, lol.


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Posted March 26 2010 - 8:54 AM

Hey Mokes,



Thanks for the detailed response. The reason we know it's at least 50 years old is because my wife is 45 and her aunt told her many years ago that she bought the painting at least 10 years before she was even born. So, it is at least 50 years old, more like 60 years.



The kids DO look a little scared, almost lost. The boy appears to be comforting his sister (?). In any case, it's here to stay in the L/R



Thanks

John



Darter....



I would have to believe this painting will be next to impossible to ID without a name on the painting, or at least initials?



Why do you think it's 50 years old btw? The art seems a bit modern in some respects.



I would say it looks something like Dutch or some strange take on WW2 scene? Hard to say really. Portray's orphans most likely. I tried to google variations of the scene, but I got nothing.



I agree it's a cool painting and well done. Who know, maybe it's a famous painter who died before signing it, lol.


"People that go to their children's practices should be locked up"

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Posted March 26 2010 - 8:57 AM

Thanks CJR. I do agree that there is a hint of anime overtones judging by the eyes of the children. You got me a little scared, though, about the geiger counter thing! I work with x-ray equipment and we have small handheld detectors all over the place - I think I'll take one home over the weekend and pass it over the painting



Thanks again for the great info.



John





The childrens facial features have some resemblance to works of Samuel Butcher, better known as the Precious Moments founder. As Mokes mentioned, there are overtones of early Anime works similar in style to original Magna genre yet substantially westernizied with definite impressionist themes. Note the buildings in the backdrop. Mokes also picked-up the post apocalyptic qualities; the reddish hues, somber sky and overall look of disaffection. That might rightly make the work something brought home by American occupation forces in the 50's. I think the attention to detail such as the childrens locks and clothing is nothing short of striking and reveals substantial talent. I'd run a geiger counter over the work and check with Japanese art dealers specializing in mid-20th century painting.


"People that go to their children's practices should be locked up"

- Little