Gully Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 heat penetrating oil hammer bigger hammer i have been there! broke off a bolt on the jeep... ok fine wanna play hardball. go get an e-z out. drill the bolt for the e z out to fit. go and torque it and the e-z out snaps off. how the heck do i attack this now?? -Hey dumbass it's not about a kill or no kill tournament, it's about how much your 2nd favorite club can mug you! That's it... -the reports thread is the yenta section for NJ.. -If’n ya cut yer teeth on Ava and teaser fishing please take a seat in the back and keep quite… -is monkey see monkey do fishing even fun..?? -yes I still fish with mono.. On occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rwalter7 Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 What is it that you're trying to remove from, cylinder head, exhaust stud, broken bolt? Did the EZ-out break off flush with the bolt? Did the bolt or stub break off flush with the surface? CT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 happened to me and it was a pits to get out. u may have to drill another hole next to the bolt hole, or get a torch and melt it out. it took me and my buddy 4 hours 14 drill bits 2 punches to get a thread cleaner out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted March 21, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 What is it that you're trying to remove from, cylinder head, exhaust stud, broken bolt? Did the EZ-out break off flush with the bolt? Did the bolt or stub break off flush with the surface? its to a bushing collar that hold the track bar bushing to the frame. cannot see the other side of the bolt. broke flush to the frame, both e-z out and bolt. happened to me and it was a pits to get out. u may have to drill another hole next to the bolt hole, or get a torch and melt it out. it took me and my buddy 4 hours 14 drill bits 2 punches to get a thread cleaner out thats what im gonna try and do. drill a couple smaller holes all around it and see if i cant pick it out with a punch or awl. was gonna try and break it up with a punch but that seems like if it doesnt work the e-z out will be more of a pita to get out. yeah yeah spiral extractors!! -Hey dumbass it's not about a kill or no kill tournament, it's about how much your 2nd favorite club can mug you! That's it... -the reports thread is the yenta section for NJ.. -If’n ya cut yer teeth on Ava and teaser fishing please take a seat in the back and keep quite… -is monkey see monkey do fishing even fun..?? -yes I still fish with mono.. On occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
speedracer Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 I'm an expert at E-Zout removal. Don't bother trying to drill it out, that doesn't work. The EZout is harder than any drill bit you will find. Heat and penetrating oil is a waste of time too. The best method I found is to buy a small carbide grinding bit for a Dremel tool and slowly grind the E-Z out away.( usually takes 30 minutes or less) Once you've gotten all of it ground away take a drill bit and drill out the old bolt. Then take a tap & die set and use the tap to remove the old bolt material from the threads. Its a lot easier than it sounds. If you have access to a cutting torch theres ways of blasting the whole thing free. Its by far the fastest method, but ya gotta have the equipment. Google it for more instructions. You're getting sleepy. ....very sleepy..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FTRAV Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 I totally agree , an e-z out is harder than any drill bit , but here is a system I have used many times and has never failed me , get a nut with the same ID as the broken bolt , holding it directly over the broken bolt , close as possible , weld the broken bolt to the nut , trying to catch all the surface , now just let cool for a few seconds till the bright red disappears , and put the wrench on the nut , and rock the bolt each time trying to untighten it more than tighten it , if it starts moving you are in good shape , sometimes I have broken the nut off and had to re do it , but it has always worked for me , good luck -- Frank T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jae Posted March 21, 2010 Report Share Posted March 21, 2010 stupid carbide bits, went through cobalt and titanium bit like a hot knife through butter, throwing money away, and this happened twice, once with a snap on extractor, next was the thread cleaner, bolt was drilled out and we were just cleaning the threads then snap, and lots of really bad words Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted527 Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 I totally agree , an e-z out is harder than any drill bit , but here is a system I have used many times and has never failed me , get a nut with the same ID as the broken bolt , holding it directly over the broken bolt , close as possible , weld the broken bolt to the nut , trying to catch all the surface , now just let cool for a few seconds till the bright red disappears , and put the wrench on the nut , and rock the bolt each time trying to untighten it more than tighten it , if it starts moving you are in good shape , sometimes I have broken the nut off and had to re do it , but it has always worked for me , good luck -- Frank T i gotta remember this one...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickT Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Next time try PB Blaster and heat instead of the penetrating oil. When I helped my buddy rebuild his jeep we had seven bolts we couldn't get loose. He was told thats the best way to get them out. All seven came out after a day of soaking in the PB Blaster and alittle heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
typem4me Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Next time try PB Blaster and heat instead of the penetrating oil. When I helped my buddy rebuild his jeep we had seven bolts we couldn't get loose. He was told thats the best way to get them out. All seven came out after a day of soaking in the PB Blaster and alittle heat. nothing will get a stuck fastener out better than patience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russ Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Actually PB and a couple of hammer blows will do wonders too. No heat. But don't miss at all on the hammer blows. FTRAV gave one of the best ideas. I've seen this used to get a 1-1/4" hold down stud free. The heating/cooling cycle seems to do the trick. still counting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cobra bait Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 most easy outs are carbides, or other high grade, very hard metals. patience and PB blaster with a map gas or propane torch will usually do the trick on almost anything, you cant rush it. the heat expands metal, while the pb will quench and cool the bolt and penetrate in between threads, usually heating and spraying a few times is needed. back to the stuck easy out. if you get a can of quick freeze or nut freeze, you can heat the crap out of the surounding metal, it expands. the directly shoot the broken ez out to contract it. a sharp punch, on an angle in the out (clock wise direction) should turn and loosen the ez out. unless you can grab it with some vise grips or pliers. expansion and contraction is used a lot. i work on aircraft parts and we heat and cool bearing and bushings all the time. some are basicaly zero tolerance parts but will expand and contract a few thousands of an inch and fall in like a hot dog down a hall way. drill bits will just keep walking off to the soft metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogboy Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 nothing will get a stuck fastener out better than patience also, before you try and loosen it-----try to tighten it first this really works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longcaster Posted March 22, 2010 Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 also, before you try and loosen it-----try to tighten it first this really works Specially with an easy-out, since it is reverse threaded. Righty tighty will back it out. If being stupid got us into this mess, how come being stupid can't get us out?I don't want to behave improperly, so I just won't behave at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gully Posted March 22, 2010 Author Report Share Posted March 22, 2010 Well it worked! Welded a nut onto the threads and it came out. Took a few tries but it worked. Had to build up the broken bolt quite a bit to get the weld to penatrate. On the last try tightened then loosened and tightened and loosened and it broke free. -Hey dumbass it's not about a kill or no kill tournament, it's about how much your 2nd favorite club can mug you! That's it... -the reports thread is the yenta section for NJ.. -If’n ya cut yer teeth on Ava and teaser fishing please take a seat in the back and keep quite… -is monkey see monkey do fishing even fun..?? -yes I still fish with mono.. On occasion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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