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#1 oldschool77

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Posted March 17 2010 - 5:43 PM

Hey folks!

I am not sure if they exist but has anyone seen a jointed 17A bomber in blurple? I would kill to have one but in the meantime I have a question about the new 16A blurple jointed I have.

I don't have a clear bomber as a reference but can these be loaded up like a mag darter to carry a bit more weight? 16A jointeds are only 1 oz and cast like crapola. My chick scratch is a full 2/3 ounce heavier and only an inch longer.

Can/should I try to load the 16A blurple somehow or should I try to put larger trebles on it? Would it hurt the casting due to wind resistance?

I do have a longer 11" black jointed eel and a jointed Creek Chub I should probably just use but blurple or black 16a straights have always been productive and tossing anything larger then 7 inches for me at least can be tricky.

Thoughts? Advice?

Thanks in advance guys...


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Posted March 17 2010 - 7:16 PM

Anyone want to take a shot? Can bombers that are dark be loaded? How do the chambers run? Shot or bb's?


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Posted March 17 2010 - 8:05 PM

I think a redfin would be a better plug to load. it also comes in similar color schemes as the bomber. I have very good success with bombers and knowing where you fish I think you should not be concerned with distance. Dont get caught up in the mind frame that the fish are out further than you can cast. Unless you see an all out blitz 15 feet from the end of your cast. GL


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Posted March 17 2010 - 8:09 PM

I don't have a clear bomber as a reference but can these be loaded up like a mag darter ...

This is actually first time I hear about loading the mag darter


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Posted March 17 2010 - 8:16 PM

I think a redfin would be a better plug to load. it also comes in similar color schemes as the bomber. I have very good success with bombers and knowing where you fish I think you should not be concerned with distance. Dont get caught up in the mind frame that the fish are out further than you can cast. Unless you see an all out blitz 15 feet from the end of your cast. GL

Very good advice!


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Posted March 17 2010 - 8:57 PM

How much oil can you put into a mag darter and not effect the action?


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Posted March 18 2010 - 8:07 AM

This is actually first time I hear about loading the mag darter


Ther was a howto on youtube where a gentleman showed how he put a bit of tiny shot in the tail for casting although personally 2.3 oz casts fine for me.

Again...I wish I have seen a 17A jointed blurple which has the mass I need.

I am tired of wind knots with my bomber. My 1oz pencils/etc have a design that facilitates great casting...jointed bombers are the least well designed for casting. My 17a jointed casts surprisingly well. I am not trying to necesarily get further on a calm night...I want less hassles casting during moderate winds with a jointed 16A. The lure just flops, doubles up its hooks, ties around the leader or gives me a wind knot if I am not careful. Even with a low projectory I find I struggle with the lighter jointed bombers. My creek chub black jointed pikie casts great as well.


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Posted March 18 2010 - 8:46 AM

This is actually first time I hear about loading the mag darter


Sorry...not a Yozuri...I meant the SS zig zig darter.


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Posted March 18 2010 - 9:04 AM

what i do with my 16a jointed bombers is take off the back jointed section of the plug, put a curly tail or a sluggo, fin-s,6"-8" ,watch how it swims!!, like a lg. eel , and when you stop your retreve stays horizonal , jointed plugs can't stay straight when stopped, back section always falls not natual


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Posted March 18 2010 - 9:25 AM

what i do with my 16a jointed bombers is take off the back jointed section of the plug, put a curly tail or a sluggo, fin-s,6"-8" ,watch how it swims!!, like a lg. eel , and when you stop your retreve stays horizonal , jointed plugs can't stay straight when stopped, back section always falls not natual


I have seen that...maybe I'll try that but I am a little worried about ballance.

I'll figure it out.

matt


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Posted March 18 2010 - 9:45 AM

whether you can load a plug or not?

Load up a few, show them to the fish, and see what you learn.

Experience is the best teacher, and who knows, maybe you'll find a new secret weapon.


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Posted March 18 2010 - 9:53 AM

whether you can load a plug or not?

Load up a few, show them to the fish, and see what you learn.

Experience is the best teacher, and who knows, maybe you'll find a new secret weapon.


I was just curious if anyone puts anything in them to help with casting like they do with Yozuri's. I can ballance the action but it may be trial and error.


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Posted March 18 2010 - 10:35 AM

Sorry...not a Yozuri...I meant the SS zig zig darter.


I can somewhat see why you may want to load this plug (whether to get it to dig deeper or cast further) however messing with mussos darter which could very well be one of the best plugs ever made is like painting a mustache on the mona lisa. I think that plug digs just fine the way it is if used at montauk or the open beach (maybe not deep rips like inlets) and its one of my better casting plugs as well. Ide leave it alone. As far as the bomber never tried loading a jointed one becasue I never looked at it as a casting plug anyway. Just my .2 cents and I hope this helps.


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