Leader recipe for 11ft switch rods
Posted March 07 2010 - 5:06 PM
Posted March 07 2010 - 5:15 PM
Posted March 07 2010 - 7:26 PM
If you use large flys you may and should shorten the leader and if you do Spey casts with large flys you have to use short leader as well to succeed with anghoring.
Posted March 07 2010 - 7:46 PM
Tapered leader does not shorten because of the tippet ring so they become cheap to use. And leader does not collect debris because of less knots.
Another great product are Polyleaders which come in different lenghts and sink rates. Tippet rings improve their usage as well. With Polyleaders it is easy to tune fly line for delicate presentation with many debths. And they can be used to lenghten the fly line. With Polyleader many OH line becomes good Spey line in minutes.
Posted March 07 2010 - 7:58 PM
Posted March 07 2010 - 8:11 PM
Posted March 08 2010 - 9:45 AM
Use those long leaders for Scandi casting (touch & go), if you are using a Skagit system (sustained anchor) with heavy sink tips use a shorter leader.
If you are overhead casting with an outbound or 40+ style of line just use what you would use with a SH rod.
Posted March 08 2010 - 5:36 PM
Posted March 08 2010 - 6:13 PM
But, if you are fishing in a current like a tidal river system, with smaller flies, the Elixir line will be very nice. When using polyleaders to get down a little they cast effortlessly once you get your stroke down. This is the way I like to fish my 11' switcher.
Best of luck and enjoy it. You should check out Spey Nation III on the Salmon River this summer to delve deeper into this style of fishing.
Posted March 08 2010 - 8:18 PM
As you will be using your new rod for saltwater applications,
I would suggest the following,
the 60, 20, 20 Rule.
60 percent of the leader length being the butt section, and the final 20 percent being the tippet section.
For and 8w, myself, I would use 50 pound mono for the butt, then 30, then 20 with a short bite tippet added to this overal lenght.
Length, this wil depend on the wind strength and direction, eg into your face of side on.
In to your face breeze, overal length is decreased to around 6 to 8 feet depending on the flies size and bulk.
In your face, a double tapered leader can be of an advantage, eg, 50, 20 and then 50 again, again on the 60, 20, 20 rule.
With the breeze from behind you a longer leader can also be an advantage and can increase the cast distance.
Trust I have helped and not confused,
Posted March 12 2010 - 7:41 PM
Posted March 12 2010 - 8:57 PM
Originally Posted by BrianBM
NJFly, I assume the "poly" leader to which you refer is made of polypropylene?
Polyleaders have fluorocarbon of mono core and they have coatings so they come different sink rates with lenghts 5 to at least 15ft. They are lighter than noirmal sinking tips but being thinner they sink quite well. They allow delicate presentation and they can be used to lenghten fly line if there is a need to have better anghoring for Spey casts when fly size is reduced a lot and to use same line/head with adjasent rod weights or different lenghts etc.
Nice use of polyleaders is to use them to do Skagit style sustained anghor casts with light SH rods.
Posted March 13 2010 - 11:25 AM
presentation and turnover is not really an issue unless you are on the flats or in real skinny water ( less than three feet) - a you are looking for either distance with an overhead cast or to swing the fly at the right depth in front of the holding fish.
a pack of poly leaders is useful if you are just starting out, but you can manage without them if you cast uptide and make a series of 'upstream' mends before the fly comes past you.
An alternative to poly leaders is the T13 tungsten impregnated lengths - you can cut and loop them in 3', 6' and 9' etc lengths to get the right depth to get you hard on the bottom - i'd also recommend a clouser or half n half to do that too.