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#1 Tiderunr

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Posted February 10 2010 - 11:17 PM

My Toro snowblower is getting a bit long in the tooth, and I'm considering a replacement. Would you pick a 2 or 4 cycle engine, and please explain why you chose one over the other.
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#2 Jae

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Posted February 10 2010 - 11:36 PM

i have the toro snowking 29" or 32" 16hp 4 stroke. works like a champ put gas in and go, change oil every 20 hours or when it looks dirty, usually takes me about an hour or 2 to do removal. 2 stroke pita fuel oil mix seperate cans can smoke like hell, but i think most all blowers are 4 stroke now and i think toro is using briggs vs the techumsa



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Posted February 10 2010 - 11:56 PM

4 Stroke. Buy an Ariens machine. Do they make a 2 stroke snow blower engine?


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Posted February 11 2010 - 9:11 AM

4 Stroke. Buy an Ariens machine. Do they make a 2 stroke snow blower engine?

I have to agree with Bill. Mine is a great machine. Just haven't had to use it at all this season. Now, I'm not complaining.
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#5 Billybob

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Posted February 11 2010 - 10:21 AM

I third the Ariens.
Mine's old as dirt, runs great.
Wait a couple months and buy a used one off season.

Do they even make 2 strokes in "real" snowblowers, or just for those little ones?



#6 mikepa

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Posted February 11 2010 - 11:18 AM

I picked up an ariens with a subie engine to replace my old one. I'm really impressed with the subaru engine runs like a swiss watch.

I think the two strokes are only in those little sidewalk cleaners.



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Posted February 11 2010 - 11:28 AM

4 stroke

the bigger the better


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Posted February 11 2010 - 1:02 PM

I'm not aware of any 2 stroke snowblower engines. Whatever brand you decide to buy make sure it has plenty of horsepower, several forward and reverse gears, and is a 2 stage.


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Posted February 11 2010 - 3:10 PM

I picked up a baby toro snow thrower this year. I use it to clear the driveway and sidewalk. I'm surprised how well it works. It's got a 2 cycle 141 cc motor. They call it a toro motor, but I'm pretty sure it's a B&S. For a small machine like this, a 2 cycle is the way to go. It handled today's instant heart attack snow pretty easily.
Certainly not a beast of a machine, but it beats the hell out of shoveling.


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Posted February 11 2010 - 4:32 PM

To start with how long is the drive, do you live in upstate or where you get a lot of snow? What is the drive surface stone, dirt, or paved?
The small paddle type blowers are called single stage, one motion around and out. Rubber paddles take snow down to bare surface, great for walks and small paved drives. Slushy snow not so good.
Next up two stage snow blowers augers move the snow to the rear blower. This blower normally starts at 5 Hp. small Craftsman blower of this style will do a great job, wont bust your back because they are light. Wont bust your wallet ether but you do get what you pay for.
Bigger is how much the salesman can separate you from your cash.
My preferences, old Ariens they are normally 6 hp and will blow straight water if you could feed it fast enough to it.
New small Craftsman two stage as long as you don't get a lot of snow every year.
Ariens new if you do.
Honda trac blower for stone drives.
Older Toro then new Toro
The operator normally is the problem in any bad running machine either from neglect or misuse.

Good luck Dave



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Posted February 11 2010 - 4:57 PM

I picked up a baby toro snow thrower this year. I use it to clear the driveway and sidewalk. I'm surprised how well it works. It's got a 2 cycle 141 cc motor. They call it a toro motor, but I'm pretty sure it's a B&S. For a small machine like this, a 2 cycle is the way to go. It handled today's instant heart attack snow pretty easily.
Certainly not a beast of a machine, but it beats the hell out of shoveling.


We have one of those an I love it more than any of the other big machines I have owned or used.

For a small engine the thing clears our very long driveway fine, but to be fair I take multiple passes sometimes.

It doesn't appear to have sheer pins since the blades are flexible. Which was nice when I sucked up a steel cable dog run!!!

I haven't come across any snow since using it that couldn't be cleared with a pass or two. Even gets through the drift that the snow plows push.



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Posted February 12 2010 - 7:17 PM

Loved my little Toro 2 cycle but took a lotta work to move snow with many passes. I believe in the 4 cycle now. 10hp Kohler engine on a 24" wide 2 stage blower makes quick work of almost anything less than 14" deep. Just my $.02.


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Posted February 16 2010 - 9:43 PM

I picked up a baby toro snow thrower this year. I use it to clear the driveway and sidewalk. I'm surprised how well it works. It's got a 2 cycle 141 cc motor. They call it a toro motor, but I'm pretty sure it's a B&S. For a small machine like this, a 2 cycle is the way to go. It handled today's instant heart attack snow pretty easily.
Certainly not a beast of a machine, but it beats the hell out of shoveling.

My Toro is a bit bigger, it's the largest one you could get with the curved rotor, and has a 2 stroke motor. Now they make an even larger model with your choice of a 2 or 4 stroke motor. The curved rotor is GREAT!
Decisions, decisions....... Many thanks for the replies!


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Posted February 17 2010 - 11:43 AM

my boss does some plowing and has the toro 2 stroke

he really likes it because it tips the scales at 70 pounds, and he can load it easily



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Posted February 17 2010 - 10:33 PM

My Toro is a bit bigger, it's the largest one you could get with the curved rotor, and has a 2 stroke motor. Now they make an even larger model with your choice of a 2 or 4 stroke motor. The curved rotor is GREAT!



Decisions, decisions....... Many thanks for the replies!



I have this snowblower (2stroke) and love it. I bought a Toro four stroke for my company this year and the guys have been very impressed. They also have a 2 stage monster which has it's place, but like this machine. The curved rotor works great and I like the rubber strips on the rotor as it gets all the way down to my blacktop.