bill22 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 any help with the numbers and letters? i got a 113 i was gonna use for wire line, but am curious about the 113h? i see all kinds on the e bay site and not sure of all the differences. i was wondering on the gear ratio on the 113? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichum Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 any help with the numbers and letters? i got a 113 i was gonna use for wire line, but am curious about the 113h? i see all kinds on the e bay site and not sure of all the differences. i was wondering on the gear ratio on the 113? One (or more?) of the Penn Senators can be had with aluminum side plates. EDIT: Metal Senators are no longer made. "Who is John Galt?" Who? You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinthedark Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 It is the gear ratio, the black 113 or a guess 113L is 2:1 The red 113H is a blazing 3.3:1 I Fish therefore I Lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QAR Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 or the 113 HSP has a chrome over bronze spool (with the higher gear ratio). I think there is another "wide" version seneter for more line capacity, but don't recall the designation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishinthedark Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 or the 113 HSP has a chrome over bronze spool (with the higher gear ratio). I think there is another "wide" version seneter for more line capacity, but don't recall the designation. QAR, I got my numbers from Penn's site but I could swear there was a 3.7:1 or a 4:1 version without doing a newell kit. Anybody I Fish therefore I Lie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surfmaster250 Posted November 30, 2009 Report Share Posted November 30, 2009 113 black 2:1 475/30, 113H red 3.25-1 475yd/30, 113HSP Red 3.25-1 575yd/30 wire line, 113HLW wide spool Red 3.25-1 600/30 113HLH 3.31 475/30 . Also 113HN Baja Special (6 bearing) 4.3-1 375/30 If you can find one new or used try for one made in USA the new off shore made ones aren't as nice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyringo Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 113 black 2:1 475/30, 113H red 3.25-1 475yd/30, 113HSP Red 3.25-1 575yd/30 wire line, 113HLW wide spool Red 3.25-1 600/30 113HLH 3.31 475/30 . Also 113HN Baja Special (6 bearing) 4.3-1 375/30 If you can find one new or used try for one made in USA the new off shore made ones aren't as nice! The Penn website lists the 113H2 a little differently. The 113H and H2 are basically the same reel. In fact, I thought the specs. were identical until I read your post. The only difference is the 113H is made in the USA and the 113H2 is made in China. I got lucky and found a brand new 113H. I also have a Peer 209 that is like new old stock and a made in China 330 GT2 (not bad quality at all but I prefer made in the USA stuff). I know where new 113H (made in USA) can still be had for around $98.00 plus shipping. The gentleman owns a tackle shop in Florida and he has a bout a half dozen left. PM me if you want his link. ringo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunanorth Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The Senator 113HN "Baja Special" is the "narrow" 4/0 size, 1 piece aluminum topless frame, aluminum spool, 4.25 to 1 gear ratio, much larger drags than 113H, much larger gears than 113H, disengaging pinion gear [like 525MAG], has been re-instated to the line and will appear back in the 2011 catalogue, and will continue to be made in USA. Penn Pro Staffer"The best kind of fish in the world is the one on the end of a kid's line" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midwestexile Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 It was my understanding that the metal senator was to be part of an updated line rather than a replacement, but that only the 4/0 actually got to market and is now an orphan. There were certainly enough aftermarket efforts to upgrade the frame and drag, plus to a lesser extent the spool, of many Penn reels. Midwestexile Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasaltangler Posted December 1, 2009 Report Share Posted December 1, 2009 The Penn website lists the 113H2 a little differently. The 113H and H2 are basically the same reel. In fact, I thought the specs. were identical until I read your post. The only difference is the 113H is made in the USA and the 113H2 is made in China. I got lucky and found a brand new 113H. I also have a Peer 209 that is like new old stock and a made in China 330 GT2 (not bad quality at all but I prefer made in the USA stuff). I know where new 113H (made in USA) can still be had for around $98.00 plus shipping. The gentleman owns a tackle shop in Florida and he has a bout a half dozen left. PM me if you want his link. ringo please pm me with the tackle shop in florida that has the 113h left. thanks flasaltangler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalkinTheDog Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I think the made in the usa senators will be available for quite a long time, they seem to be all over the place. The baja special is a great reel from what i have heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichum Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 I think the made in the usa senators will be available for quite a long time, they seem to be all over the place. The baja special is a great reel from what i have heard. From Tunanorth: 113hn No doubt the best Senator is the 113HN Baja Special. Upgraded gears, drag, frame, everything, and with the use of superbraid line, it's 4/0 narrow size can still hold over 500 yards of 80-pound test if need be, and made in USA. It was briefly dropped from the Penn lineup last year, but was re-instated in mid 2009. The metal Senators were discontinued in late 2008, with no plans to re-instate them. __________________ Penn Pro Staffer "Who is John Galt?" Who? You? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyringo Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 please pm me with the tackle shop in florida that has the 113h left. thanks flasaltangler You don't have the PM function available that I can see nor do you accept email. Let me know when you enable the PM function and I will gladly send you a link. The made in USA Penn 113H are still available but once gone all that will be able to buy will be made in China 113H2 models. The Baja is a nice reel but around $250.00. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flasaltangler Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 Thanks For The Reply Didn't Realize I Had Block On Email.you Can Email Me Now Block Is Off.flasaltangler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Yee Posted December 2, 2009 Report Share Posted December 2, 2009 out here in cali when we wireline its preferred to use the steel spool vs aluminum due to corrosion and wear n tear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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