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#1 applecore

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Posted September 20 2009 - 10:22 AM

Emergers are around $150, RRA around $300. Can anyone comment on their experience with either model? Is anything gained by going with the more expensive pair?

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Posted September 20 2009 - 11:02 AM

I've had my emergers for nearly two years now and like them a lot. I've used them for two springs trout fishing and one fall of striper fishing. I feel that while I don't try to abuse my waders, I don't baby them either and frequently trek through the woods, climb over logs, and scurry up rocks.
I've yet to have a single problem with them and with the proper layering have felt comfortable wearing them in spring, early summer and well into fall.
My first pair of waders was a pair of cabelas non breathable hip waders, and as expected, the breathability of the emerger was a huge improvement. However, while I lack any other basis of comparisson, I feel like higher end waders could be more breathable.
Overall I'm pleased with them and plan on using them for years to come



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Posted September 20 2009 - 11:10 AM

I've got the Emergers...love them , LIFETIME WARRANTY , enough said.


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Posted September 21 2009 - 5:58 AM

emergers are great, light. i wear a pair of sweats in fall/early spring, warm enough. own 4 pairs for myself ,2 sons and wife. no probs at all.


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Posted September 21 2009 - 8:05 AM

I got the Emergers Stockingfoot ones and they're great.
FYI, you can get them at LL Bean's outlet stores for a lot less (got mine for $30) with the same lifetime warranty.



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Posted September 21 2009 - 12:11 PM

Just got the Rapid River Aquastealth waders. Had them out 4 trips now...too early to give the final opinion but initial thoughts:

** not loving the lace up boots - for some reason the laces do not tighten enough so the boot feels loose. That was the big difference in the waders that had me choose the Aquastealths. They also use a different fabric (or pattern) that supposedly should prevent leaks in high wear areas. I am going to change the lacing pattern and see if that provides a solution.
** found one of my socks wet last trip out...need to determine if it was from sweat or if there may be a leak on one of the boots.
** the waders straps have a funky locking mechanism that can be tough to open...

There you go...best thing with LL Bean waders is their customer service...I had the waders here in one day after ordering the pair. Hopefully I don't have a leak in one of the boots...we shall see.

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Posted September 21 2009 - 1:28 PM

This thread prompted me to call LLBEAN to order a new set of waders. I have been wearing their Wicked Tough Waders for the last four years at Montauk which means between 10 and 15 trips a year.They are not leaking but after 4 years I feel the need for a back up pair. The best waders I have ever owned and well worth the $329 I paid for them. No more Wicked Tough, they are discontinued . I asked for the replacement and was told the Rapid River Waders. I read the comments (on their web site) by the people who bought them and found that the majority complained of leaks and rated them 1 out of 5 stars.

I called back and spoke to a guy in the "wader department" who it turns out is a Kayak/surf fisherman. He said he has had to replace the Rapid Rivers for customers "often" of late.

We discussed the Helix line and that appears to be the replacement for the "Wicked Tough" not the Rapid Rivers. They cost about $400 but are stocking foot (no boots).I would rather buy waders without boots attached as I believe you get a better quality wader. In addition the attached boots NEVER come in my size or width.

Those of you who can walk into your local tackle store or Sports Authority/Dicks and buy cheap waders that fit/ last one or 2 seasons have no idea how lucky you are!!!

Marc


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Posted September 21 2009 - 2:43 PM

Marc,

I saw the new Simms Xstream waders at the Huntington show and they look well made and ideal for early spring and fall/winter fishing. The list for around $400 but an internet search will find them available for less than that. They are worth considering plus they have the new Muck boot which supposed to be incredibly comfortable. They are worth checking out...

RS



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Posted September 21 2009 - 3:43 PM

Had two pair of RR Aquastealths. One pair the inseam was way too short (I'm 6'2" and couldn't lift my knees to get up onto rocks). They were a size large. The built in boot foot was well constructed compared to others I've had. Took those back and got the 'King' size which wasn't much better, and they leaked at the crotch my 2nd time out. Said 'F it" Went back to Cabela's lace up bootfoot which isn't as rugged but good enough. LLBean warranty makes it a very low risk purchase, however. Make sure they're not too snug.


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Posted September 21 2009 - 4:07 PM

Marc,
I have a pair of the Rapid River stocking foot waders (king size/XL. Not fat, just have a size 12.5 foot).and have used them this entire season with no problems what so ever. By no problems I mean no leaks no fit issues nada.
I have not been gentle on them by any stretch of the imagination. The king sized pair is a bit baggy but with the weather turning cold it makes for a good fit with multiple layers. The design/cut of the waders makes walking long distances much more comfortable than any other cheaper waders I've owned (hodgman, cabelas, red head).
Hands down the best, most comfortable waders I've ever owned. I'd buy another pair in a heart beat. I too just read the reviews but with only 9 reviews listed its hard to take a few complaints or people giving the waders 1 star too seriously.



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Posted September 21 2009 - 4:58 PM

Marc,

I saw the new Simms Xstream waders at the Huntington show and they look well made and ideal for early spring and fall/winter fishing. The list for around $400 but an internet search will find them available for less than that. They are worth considering plus they have the new Muck boot which supposed to be incredibly comfortable. They are worth checking out...

RS


Marc,

I have a pair of the Rapid River stocking foot waders (king size/XL. Not fat, just have a size 12.5 foot).and have used them this entire season with no problems what so ever. By no problems I mean no leaks no fit issues nada.

I have not been gentle on them by any stretch of the imagination. The king sized pair is a bit baggy but with the weather turning cold it makes for a good fit with multiple layers. The design/cut of the waders makes walking long distances much more comfortable than any other cheaper waders I've owned (hodgman, cabelas, red head).

Hands down the best, most comfortable waders I've ever owned. I'd buy another pair in a heart beat. I too just read the reviews but with only 9 reviews listed its hard to take a few complaints or people giving the waders 1 star too seriously.


Thanks for the suggestions but my problem is a boot size of 15EEE. The Simms are cut too small even in a stocking foot and they don't go beyond 14 Medium in the Custom MUCK BOOT PROGRAM. I have a pair of Wade Light Boots that fit but no ankle support so I use a pair of lace up ankle supports underneath. Not great but sufficient. I also tried the top of the line Korker Boots with studs but they are cut too narrow.I spoke to the LLBEAN guy at length and will go with the Helix stocking foot which is as close to the old Wicked Tough as can be found.

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Marc


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Posted September 21 2009 - 5:13 PM

This is my first season with the Emergers. I've been happy with them. I previously had Orvis Silver Labels, which I liked, but too many leaks for no reason. I went with the LL Beans for the warranty.


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Posted September 21 2009 - 5:37 PM

This is my first season with the Emergers. I've been happy with them. I previously had Orvis Silver Labels, which I liked, but too many leaks for no reason. I went with the LL Beans for the warranty.



Went with the emergers. I had the same problem with the Orvis SL- sucks because they did have a good reputation. I tried fixing some leaks myself but then the shoes started falling apart. I understand they don't last forever and if my llbeans last 3 seasons I'll simply buy a new pair. But the orvis ones didn't get through 1 season before I started having issues.